[antris]

Jobs didn't believe in cancer treatment https://www.forbes.com/sites/alicegwalton/2011/10/24/steve-j...

I'm pretty sure he'd have fell in line to the fascist insanity just like all other billionaires. He lived at the time of the height of neoliberal ideology, when most people believed in the conjured public images that the tech bro CEOs gave out in PR. Behind the scenes, things were quite different. Jobs has been reported to be petty, insulting and belittling of his employees

[ConradKilroy]

Thank you for referencing his idiot behavior leading to his own demise, I hope that will be on his coin.

[khazhoux]

Why do you say that?

Was his refusal of cancer treatment more impactful on the world than his creation of Apple Computers?

[lacy_tinpot]

To imagine being anti-pharma, and big corporations used to be a Leftists/Hippy talking point.

[lotsofpulp]

Still is. Portland, OR shoots down fluoridated water every time.

[antris]

Hippies were never leftists, they were liberals. And when fascists come knocking, liberals flock to fascism.

Also, being anti big pharma isn't the same as believing in conspiracy theories. You can't resist if you don't live in reality.

[thomassmith65]

  I'm pretty sure he'd have fell in line to the fascist insanity just like all other billionaires.

That's a take that seems based on some kind of ideology more than thinking about the actual person. The actual person was a man with a massive ego, and pretensions of being an artist and intellectual. It's a real stretch to envision Jobs being deferential to Musk or Trump, both of whom, without a doubt, still fantasize about being Steve Jobs.

[cbozeman]

Musk is easily on the level of Jobs and arguably beyond him, not just financially, but on the scale of what they've done for Humanity as a whole.

SpaceX and Starlink just by themselves are enough to catapult him beyond Jobs, but you add on Tesla, which pretty much single-handedly pushed electric cars into mainstream culture, and he's easily there.

This isn't even really a subjective perspective, you could objectively argue it.

[antris]

Musk has massive ego too, and he's drinking the fascist kool aid, perhaps even more than Trump himself. Massive ego is more susceptible to fascist thinking, not less.

[Mistletoe]

I'm not even a Jobs fanboy but let's give him the benefit of the doubt. He at least believed in things, which is more than I can say for the tech giants that are bending the knee right now.

[goosejuice]

Oh they believe in things... https://a16z.com/the-techno-optimist-manifesto/

[antris]

Well I'm just going by what's been reported in the media. It gives no indication that Jobs was an anti-fascist ready to resist.

[caycep]

at least judging from his products sense, what he believed in was more grounded in the real world

[jsphweid]

> Jobs didn't believe in cancer treatment

His own health choices are a private matter as far as I'm concerned. He held off too long on modern medicine and paid the price for it. Bringing it up here is irrelevant and distracting.

[bertylicious]

It's not distracting, it's an important detail underlining the ridiculousness of this decision.

Maybe it's just me, but I think innovation awards are for people with scientific mindsets. Jobs obviously didn't have one.

[antris]

RFK Jr. is the Secretary of Health and Human Services.