[anoxor]

I like that the focus is on the issues with the disruptors that have been running for a few weeks, not the egregious spending for decades.

[fhd2]

One could agree with the goals of reducing government spending and still argue that "the disruptors" are moving too fast and breaking too many things.

[JoshTko]

And illegally

[anoxor]

Sure, where are the nytimes articles that praise and highlight the good cuts?

[_DeadFred_]

This disruption are not about spending though.

In their own words what it is about:

"We want the bureaucrats to be traumatically affected. When they wake up in the morning, we want them to not want to go to work" https://www.nytimes.com/2025/01/11/books/review/administrati...

[wsve]

This is exactly right. DOGE deserves no praise. Their goal is not to cut spending to bring money back to the people. Their goal is to gut the government itself and make it ineffective in improving people's lives. They don't actually care whether these departments are "wasteful", and anyone who thinks they do has bought and drunk the snake oil.

[agumonkey]

don't get fooled by the disruptor narrative, it might very well be just pretentious immaturity

[relaxing]

Always was.

[pizza]

What's wrong with evidence?

[phh]

I personally wouldn't want my government run by unchecked people who get the value of something off by three orders of magnitude. In a meritocracy private company someone confusing 8M with 8B is at best put in a closet job. More likely getting fired, and probably getting sued. When Jerome Kerviel was off by 5B he went to prison.

[biophysboy]

People regularly discuss the debt, this is a strawman.

[noah_buddy]

There is a dual point:

- many of the organizations cut certainly have done evil which the average American would not support.

- I do not expect Trump to do less evil. I expect him simply to command it more directly.

[DFHippie]

That egregious spending bears a family resemblance to the malfeasance that cost Trump the 2020 election and Iraq's weapons of mass destruction.

[qwe----3]

I bet back in the day you were the complaining about 200000$ toilet seats in Iraq. Now that’s it’s not on your side of politics it’s a fabrication

[mc32]

And honestly it’s been both parties who have been more than happy to pay lip service to the problem but instead of paring things add additional oversight that has no enforcement power so they only add more weight to the bureaucracy with a few reports no one reads to show for. In the face of deficits, they don’t retrench as individuals and private entities have to.

[anoxor]

Totally agree. I think the debt is at 100k per taxpayer. Either taxes or inflation will have to be used to pay that.

[watwut]

both parties invoked in highly assymetrical situation is getting old.

[NotGMan]

The trashing of a (hopefully) dying octopus.

[mieses]

hopefully to be replaced by something less rotten