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macrael | 1 year ago

LOL we may need to update the title of this post, half the top level comments right now are assuming the study confirmed the hypothesis.

> With a mighty Pearson's correlation of 0.091, the data indicates that this could

> be true! If you ignore the fact that the correlation is so weak that calling it 'statistically

> insignificant' would be quite generous.

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cloudbonsai|1 year ago

> be true! If you ignore the fact that the correlation is so weak that calling it 'statistically insignificant' would be quite generous.

I actually came to a different conclusion than the author. Here is the way I'm thinking about the presented statistics:

1. There is 17 Kebab shops (out of 400 samples) with a google review lower than 3 stars. Let's call them "bad kebabs".

2. All those "bad kebabs" actually located within 500m from the nearest station. No kebab located in further than >500m is bad.

3. So if you've ever gotten a bad donor kebab, we can safely assume that you have purchased it from a kebab shop near a train station.

Maybe there are so many kebab eaters near a train station that a mediocre kebab offering becomes profitable?

magicalhippo|1 year ago

> with a google review lower than 3 stars

At least here, the majority of 1-2 star reviews are actually complaining about third-party delivery services like Foodora[1].

Of course the fries will be soggy and the burger luke warm when you got a guy who had to pedal a bike for half an hour to deliver it for you. Like what did you expect?

[1]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foodora

Galanwe|1 year ago

> 2. All those "bad kebabs" actually located within 500m from the nearest station. No kebab located in further than >500m is bad.

Right, but this is selection bias. There will always exist a distance D from which all bad kebabs are located.

Unless D is provenly chosen _before_ looking at the data, this has no meaning.

One also has to take the kebab density into account.

ant6n|1 year ago

Bad kebab shops may survive if located near a train station.

lostdog|1 year ago

The more generally interesting a topic is the more likely a HN user is to read the article. A study.

tialaramex|1 year ago

I am definitely guilty of sometimes clicking "reply" and then reading the linked article to check that I'm not about to essentially tell you what you'd have read or worse, tell you something the article actually debunks.

AlienRobot|1 year ago

I only read articles with headlines that describe informative content, not with headlines that sound funny or thought-provoking.

gwerbret|1 year ago

Heh. You've just captured the reason why (the better) clinical journals explicitly and specifically forbid having a statement of results in the title of a paper.

daotoad|1 year ago

Would it help if I were to chime in with a response about the benefits of kebab case over train case?

btown|1 year ago

Hi there, inventor of the kebab plugin for traindeck here. I'm afraid I was the one who introduced the concept of kebab case, way back in the early 1990s. Back then, trains didn't have enough processing power to handle full cuts of meat, so I thought I'd introduce kebabs as a hack, and it ended up taking off! Didn't expect anyone to still be using it. It's always fun to share stories on HN - you never know who you'll meat here.

aqueueaqueue|1 year ago

Easy fix: just add a ? to the end.

Buldak|1 year ago

"study" is already in scare quotes