[null_investor]

Remember that... we don't have numbers yet from Tesla in Europe after Musk did the Sieg Heil.

I live in Europe and people absolutely went batshit crazy about it, not only in Germany. People really despise that gesture.

I'm willing to bet sales in Europe for Tesla FY2025 will be terrible.

I know many Tesla owners here that are considering selling the car because they are also afraid of the car dropping even further in price because too many people will want to sell it.

[sime2009]

I'm in the Netherlands and the used market for Tesla has already dropped like a rock. It is flooded with cars from leasing companies who after 5 years now want to sell them on for deprecation and tax purposes.

[LightBug1]

Yup, you can pick up Teslas cheap in the UK now ... and I still won't buy those PoS's ...

[igleria]

This is comforting, as an Argentinian living in Germany. 1 out of 5 people here voted for the AFD...

[lompad]

On average, yes. But if you look on a voting map[0], you'll notice that the majority of those votes comes out of the former DDR. In many other areas, much less than 1 in 5 voted for the brownshirts.

[0]: https://www.tagesschau.de/inland/bundestagswahl/wahlkreiserg...

[ssijak]

What about Germans living in Argentina? :)

[BoredPositron]

And 4 out of 5 didn’t.

[JohnKemeny]

Around 50% of the population has an IQ of less than 100.

[Juliate]

In France, Tesla Model Y is -57% (compared to Jan '24) at 640 units in January, while other brands are growing at 2813 (Renault 5), 1548 (Citroen E C3), 1177 (Renault Scenic), 762 (Peugeot 3008), among others.

Source: https://www.autojournal.fr/environnement/voitures-electrique...

[palata]

> I know many Tesla owners here that are considering selling the car because they are also afraid of the car dropping even further in price because too many people will want to sell it.

I know some who are considering selling the car because they are afraid of what other people will think knowing they drive a Tesla.

[Neil44]

I would encourage you to watch the whole video of the incident, with sound, and then put your hand on your heart and honestly say you think that was a sieg heil. (but don't throw it to the crowd after)

[rmu09]

It was not a coincidence that it looked like one. Nobody with knowledge of contemporary history would make a gesture that could be interpreted as "Sieg Heil" by mistake at an event that is watched worldwide.

[altacc]

I've watched it, many people have, and have still firmly concluded it was a purposeful action. It's debatable whether it was a true "I'm a Nazi" move or a "I'm a troll" move but the smirk on the face, the long, long history of trolling and antagonizing opponents, the previous comments from Musk that the left was calling him a Nazi, etc... all indicate that he intentionally did something provoking.

This is even more true for the latest copycats from CPAC, which show that the Fascist salute is being normalised and becoming a MAGA symbol. Think about that. Whatever Elon's original intent, the American right is now knowingly doing the fascist salute, not as satire but as a open sign of their politics and provocation to their opponents.

[Hikikomori]

Wanna explain this white supremacy dog whistle?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fourteen_Words

https://theconversation.com/musks-inauguration-salute-is-not...

[dh2022]

I watched the video with sound quite a few times. It was totally heil hitler salute. (Not to bring up the statement Elon made about how Germans should stop apologizing for holocaust. At that point even the anti-defamation league gave upon him. Elon is fascist to the core)

[ryandrake]

I would encourage anyone who thinks it was not a Nazi sieg heil to go into work and do the exact gesture in front of your boss, and then report back here on what happens.

[thrance]

Actually, I think they went "batshit sane", what other reaction could a sane person have after seeing that happening on live TV, during the POTUS investiture?