Launch HN: Bild AI (YC W25) – Understand Construction Blueprints Using AI
98 points| rooppal | 1 year ago
The problem we're tackling is the sheer manual effort that goes into generating material quantities and cost estimates from blueprints today. Contractors and suppliers spend countless hours doing takeoffs by drawing on blueprints by hand - it's tedious, error-prone, and costs the global industry $30B a year. A single mistake can lead to thousands in losses on a project.
My co-founder Puneet experienced this firsthand as he was building hundreds of houses in Canada. Meanwhile, my background is in applied ML - I started at Google at 19, then Waymo where I built perception models for self-driving cars. Puneet and I met at Hack for Social Impact where we built our first _very_ narrow-scoped prototype.
Since then we’ve expanded our scope slowly, with a laser-focus on accuracy. Our approach is to use a suite of specialized machine learning models for specific blueprint comprehension tasks, rather than a single end-to-end model. For example, we've developed computer vision models that are highly accurate at detecting and measuring floor areas, or identifying and counting framing elements like studs and doors. By composing these expert sub-models, we can achieve high accuracy on the overall takeoff.
This is somewhat analogous to the approach we took at Waymo for self-driving perception - having an array of dedicated models for tasks like lane detection, traffic light classification etc. It's a very different paradigm than the big-data end-to-end models like what Tesla uses - unfortunately we just don’t have enough data yet.
We're working with some early customers like flooring suppliers to help automate their estimating workflows. But we see a huge opportunity to expand this "AI that understands blueprints" approach across all trades.
Would love to get the HN community's thoughts and feedback! Construction is an industry I think is really ripe for applying cutting-edge ML techniques. If you have experience in this domain as a builder, architect, estimator, supplier etc. I'd love to hear about your workflow and pain points.
Also if you're a researcher or engineer excited about applying state-of-the-art techniques to real-world problems in underserved industries, definitely reach out!
We’re currently live with customers but are only able to serve a subset of trades accurately right now. Head to https://www.bild.ai/upload if you want to try uploading a blueprint and we can talk about your use-case. I truly believe we can solve blueprint understanding with AI, and there seem to be a huge number of applications. I'll be here all day to chat and answer questions!
BrandiATMuhkuh|1 year ago
Coincidentally, yesterday I had a client meeting and they ask for exactly that. I'm working as lead developer for https://howie.systems and we are building a co-pilot (knowledge platform) for the AEC industry.
Would love to have a talk. Your product could save us lot's of work!
rooppal|1 year ago
djsamseng|1 year ago
- You’re right, data is very hard to come by. I’m curious, how do you plan to get around this? Outsourcing human labeling? We found it to be a very difficult task.
- The subcontractors and local construction companies we talked to were overwhelming excited about the idea.
- It’s entire people’s jobs to get this done and done correctly. They sit on site holding the pdfs in their hands, manually counting and calculating. You bet a lot of mistakes occur. They would absolutely love to have a digital assistant for this.
- Some of them (especially managers and owners) are quite technical and are using software such as BlueBeam and other CAD software to make these calculations. It’s quite manual currently, but gives great insight into a better solution. This led us to having the user manually select the symbol they wanted counted (which ML struggled to get right). Just getting the part counts (and highlighting them in the pdf) was a huge help!
- Impressive you got square footage calculations correct! In our experience, there was way too much variation between architects (and multistep dimension labeling) which made it hard (even for humans) to get right. How has your model generalized OOD thus far?
- Are you planning to integrate voice? Many of the subcontractors we worked with are very low tech. They usually talk with their clients in person, on the phone, or maybe text. But they don’t use email or their smart phones for much.
I will be following your work! I have friends who would love to use this once it passes the human threshold.
rooppal|1 year ago
harmmonica|1 year ago
I'm asking because even though I am (mostly) technically illiterate I have asked both ChatGPT and Claude to help me build a scraper for construction material costs, from the suppliers we use, that can be updated in realtime or at least monthly. Haven't done anything with those instructions yet, but I would love nothing more than to use a tool that we could feed a blueprint into and then would tell me, with "laser-focus accuracy" <smile> how many x's the project would need and the costs. Even better yet if it could compare costs from suppliers and guide us to the lowest-cost supplier.
Edit: oh, while you're thinking of replying, how high fidelity do the blueprints need to be? Again, I'm sure you specify somewhere, but too lazy to find it. How far along the spectrum from "drawn on a napkin" to "fully standardized" do you accept?
rooppal|1 year ago
For the second question, it really is most accurate on "fully standardized" blueprints due to our training distribution. Will work on improving that as well!
serjester|1 year ago
FloorEgg|1 year ago
The benefit of estimating quantities and cost cycles in with pre-con and business development, the artifacts during the pre-con design phase tend to be different than the takeoff artifacts which are often transformed through BIM.
Did you learn something to the contrary? Or are you purposely targeting smaller firms and projects that don't use Bim and maybe won't for a long time?
rooppal|1 year ago
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Enginerrrd|1 year ago
BIM and other standardization is really the correct answer to this problem. This is a stop gap to cover for when/if that ever gets widely adopted.
nicpottier|1 year ago
On the other side, architects are using Revit more and more and takeoffs like square footage of flooring are accurate and take no time at all. That's another industry slow to change and that used to take more effort so many architects aren't providing that information to their clients, but technically there's nothing preventing it. There's a bit more hand waving when it comes to calculating number of studs etc, but that is pretty straightforward as well.
Source: I'm funemployed as a drafter for a local architect after 25 years in software.
rooppal|1 year ago
realitysballs|1 year ago
If owners/developers understood this they could create contract structures that incentivize more fluid data collaboration aka the quantity take offs automatically generate as you are designing.
Pragmatically though in the current AEC landscape there is still a need for 2D QTO, nice work
ev9|1 year ago
It looks like your launch is opening this up to the general public - why not niche down to GCs? Maybe the launch is focused on simply gathering more blueprint data to feed your models?
rooppal|1 year ago
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johanssen|1 year ago
Estimators miss things ALL THE TIME. It's the subject of seemingly endless in-house arguments between PMs and Estimators:)
xrendan|1 year ago
One thing I've been thinking about is if you could use a model like this as the first pass for permitters (Like a GitHub Actions CI/CD) who review blueprints.
Many developers use the regulatory side of various engineering approval processes as a quality control check which costs money and time for the regulator who is tasked with enforcing a standard.
It would also be good to speed up the workflow for developers saying hey, this thing looks weird did you really mean to do this?
And then further on, you could add a way to check it for constructability. My framer friends often get annoyed at whatever engineer because the way the structure is designed is materially inefficient or hard to construct.
rooppal|1 year ago
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DanKamau|1 year ago
What's crazy about this is that the AI revolution is going nuts. We've started with Steel and customers who would traditionally bid on paper are now jumping straight to AI takeoffs. The impact is real.
One customer recently told us that he was able to bid on $200M more than he would have been able to otherwise: https://www.linkedin.com/feed/update/urn:li:activity:7300899.... That's a couple of million in revenue that they would have worked away from because of capacity constraints.
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