[wronglebowski]

No ROCm at launch? After they delayed it for months? What a joke. That's like not having CUDA available at launch.

https://www.phoronix.com/news/AMD-ROCm-RX-9070-Launch-Day

[packetlost]

This card is marketed to consumers, not AI developers. Most people who will buy these cards don't even know what ROCm is.

Edit: it just doesn't matter for launch day. It'll likely be supported eventually.

[wronglebowski]

Every Nvidia card has CUDA support from day one, regardless of who the market is for it. I wouldn't much as much if all their slides weren't covered in AI, AI, AI, and it didn't ship with some stupid LLM chatbot to help you tune your GPU.

[varispeed]

Why can't consumers dabble in AI?

When I explained my non-technical friend who is addicted to ChatGPT that she could run models locally her eyes got lighten up and she wants to buy a graphics card, but she is not doing any gaming.

[xienze]

I think having CUDA available in consumer cards probably played a big part in it being the de facto "AI framework." AMD would be wise to do the same thing.

[qwertox]

> not AI developers

Yet their slides show INT8 and INT8 with Sparsity performance improvements. As well as "Supercharged AI Performance".

[MrBuddyCasino]

Developers introduction to a technical ecosystem is more than likely using the card they already own. And "It'll likely be supported eventually" just signals that they're not serious about investing in their software. AMD is selling enough CPUs to finance a few developers.

[caycep]

I mean that's one way to guarantee availability for gamers!

[slavik81]

The ROCm libraries were built for RDNA 4 starting in ROCm 6.3 (the current ROCm release). I'm not sure whether that means it will be considered officially supported in ROCm 6.3 or if it's just experimental in that release.

[magic_at_nodai]

Im running ROCm ok on my 9070XT. You can build it from source today if you have a card.

rocminfo:

**** Agent 2 **** Name: gfx1201 Uuid: GPU-cea119534ea1127a Marketing Name: AMD Radeon Graphics Vendor Name: AMD Feature: KERNEL_DISPATCH Profile: BASE_PROFILE Float Round Mode: NEAR Max Queue Number: 128(0x80) Queue Min Size: 64(0x40) Queue Max Size: 131072(0x20000)

[32.624s](rocm-venv) a@Shark:~/github/TheRock$ ./build/dist/rocm/bin/rocm-smi

======================================== ROCm System Management Interface ======================================== ================================================== Concise Info ================================================== Device Node IDs Temp Power Partitions SCLK MCLK Fan Perf PwrCap VRAM% GPU% (DID, GUID) (Edge) (Avg) (Mem, Compute, ID) ================================================================================================================== 0 2 0x73a5, 59113 N/A N/A N/A, N/A, 0 N/A N/A 0% unknown N/A 0% 0% 1 1 0x7550, 24524 36.0°C 2.0W N/A, N/A, 0 0Mhz 96Mhz 0% auto 245.0W 4% 0% ================================================================================================================== ============================================== End of ROCm SMI Log ===============================================

[numpad0]

Can't Vulkan backends do the job? Not to defend AMD, but so long that perf/dollar stays above NVIDIA just any how, isn't that more than bare minimum effort for them?

[ryao]

I am not surprised, ROCm focuses on CDNA. Was RDNA in ROCm ever officially supported?

[daemonologist]

RX 7900 (RDNA 3 flagships) are officially supported. I think the 6900 (RDNA 2) was supported at one point as well, and in both cases other cards with the same architecture could usually be made to work as well.

[seanw444]

My 6900 XT has had pretty good support in everything I've tried.