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headsman771 | 1 year ago
However there was reporting prior to his arrival that he didnt intend to sign it, and considered it something that lower level officials could do. This was after the impression was given that he was coming to the US to sign it, as you admitted was his intention.
> No one ever said they needed to. What gives you that impression
NATO membership for Ukraine is an attempt to call Russia's bluff that they wouldn't continue fighting, or escelate to nuclear weapons if Ukraine were admitted. That is a direct die roll on starting WW3 and Ukraine is not worth it.
> To be clear European NATO partners do expect the US to go unlimited debt or die on the battlefield to protect them. It's called NATO.
I think you understood that I meant for Ukraine. If not, well, it wasn't difficult to see that's what I meant.
Yes, the US should, and I and most Americans do support, upholding Article 5 obligations.
> As for Ukraine. Firstly the US has give much less than the EU.
I hope you're joking.
> The US owes no one anything, but is it too much to ask that Trump goes hard on the ones who started the war, Russia, who...
The west collectively went hard on Russia. We gave Ukraine more of a fighting chance than anyone could possibly hope for. But Russia is winning. We will not escalate to risking WW3. Ukrainians are amazingly tough people and what happened to them is a tragedy, but its in their best interest to stop fighting and dying.
cbg0|1 year ago
There's zero risk of WW3 due to MAD doctrine, so nobody is dropping nukes. Russia couldn't take on one country, let alone dozens of them in a conventional war, so that's also not happening.
> As for Ukraine. Firstly the US has give much less than the EU.
Definitely "less", though "much" is relative https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/crew8y7pwd5o