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Version467 | 1 year ago

Very disappointing. I do not understand how people earnestly defend the successionist view as a good future, but I thought he might at least give some interesting arguments.

This talk isn't that. There are no substantive arguments for why we should embrace this future and his representation of the opposite side isn't in good faith either, instead he chose to present straw-man versions of them.

He concludes with "A successful succession offers [...] the best hope for a long-term future for humanity. How this can possibly be true when ai succession necessarily includes replacement eludes me. He does mention transhumanism on a slide, but it seems extremely unlikely that he's actually talking about that and the whole succession spiel is just unfortunate wording.

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neuroticnews25|1 year ago

I'm not trying to be edgy or misanthropic but I don't understand why would you attach emotional value to the abstract concept of existence of humanity over next millennia. Isn't it the same kind of extrapolation of kin selection instincts far into the domain of values as for example favouring your race over others?

To me robots are just as cool.

visarga|1 year ago

> ai succession necessarily includes replacement

How is AI going to make its own chips and energy? The supply chain for AI hardware is long an fragile. AGI will have an interest in maintaining peace for this reason.

And why would it replace us, our thoughts are like food for AI. Our bodies are very efficient and mobile, biology will certainly be an option for AGI at some point.

vonneumannstan|1 year ago

Robotics is a software problem now, see the Tesla, Figure or Unitree humanoid bots. An AI can be totally embodied and humans will have little or no value as labor at all.

hollerith|1 year ago

>How is AI going to make its own chips and energy?

OK, so do you support laws preventing chip manufacturers and energy providers from becoming reliant on AI?

drcode|1 year ago

> How is AI going to make its own chips and energy?

Pay naive humans take care of those things while it has to, then disassemble the atoms in their human bodies into raw materials for robots/datacenters once that is no longer necessary