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mjfl | 1 year ago

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dmos62|1 year ago

"War against Ukraine"? That's the first time I've heard that phrased that way from a non-Russian source. What have you been reading? Aren't you whitewashing Russia's invasion of Ukraine?

And, to call Azov an extremist group, or to liken them to people who literally tried to overthrow the US government, or to ISIS, that is plain disturbed.

cryptonector|1 year ago

I've not even heard Russian sources refer to it as the "war against Ukraine"! Typically it's the "special military operation" or something to the effect of a war against a dictator or Western interests or something. Never "war against Ukraine". One does not fight a war against a country whose people one believes want to one to annex them.

sampo|1 year ago

> That's the first time I've heard that phrased that way from a non-Russian source.

We don't know if this was from a non-Russian source.

rightbyte|1 year ago

> to call Azov an extremist group, [...], that is plain disturbed.

Really? "Extremist brigade" then? Their isnignia is the one of 2.nd SS division Deutschland, cleverly mirrored. They were on the US sanction list.

ForTheKidz|1 year ago

I think you mean Enrique Tarrio. Ritchie Torres is a representative from the south bronx.

wildzzz|1 year ago

Sometimes the enemy of your enemy is your friend, other times they are just another enemy. Playing both sides does sometimes get messy but that's the next generation's problem.

mjfl|1 year ago

It's pretty disgusting to demand a domestic crackdown on your political opponents because of the 'threat' posed by an extremist group that you are covertly funding, training, and controlling, which is what happened with Azov.

cess11|1 year ago

ISIS-style groups hate 'fitnah' (fragmentation or sedition) and 'rafidah' (rejectors, of a certain succession), i.e. shiites, a perceived internal enemy of the ummah, more than they hate non-muslims. This makes Iran _the_ enemy, and enemies of the enemy tentative friends, and friends of the enemy enemies.

The US has never had any qualms cooperating with more or less nasty groups or regimes. They recruited the mafia to keep unions and socialists from gaining political power in Europe, exchanging a revival of the heroin trade for their own political gains.