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rahton | 1 year ago

Why not just leave? I mean for those who can afford. Especially when this is happening in a country with so many firearms. It could quickly be easier to resist from a safe place.

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throw-the-towel|1 year ago

As someone who did leave his country over politics, and doesn't regret it, I assure you it's not something you "just" do. Emigration is hard.

rented_mule|1 year ago

Because I have many loved ones that I don't want to be too far from. It's worth enduring a lot to be around them.

EasyMark|1 year ago

Because I have family here that I love dearly, that's enough reason for me to stay and fight. Why should I leave? I'm not the one trying to set up an authoritarian government.

Brian_K_White|1 year ago

"resist from a safe place?" If you leave, you no longer have any right to any say in the old place.

And what if the new place develops it's own problems? Wander the globe forever in hopes of finding a magical place?

If your roomate shits in your living room, "you should move out" is the second to last choice. The last choice is stay and live with it. The first and second choices in undecided order are correct the offenders behavior or make them leave.

rahton|1 year ago

Doesn't History proves this wrong? Hundred of thousands of Huguenots left French persecutions and largely contributed to Protestants culture. Nearly Half a million jews fled Europe before/during ww2. French resistance was largely organized from abroad. There are a good amount of Russian activists outside of the country currently. Just a few examples. As stated bellow, I understand the challenges implied by immigration. But it could quickly escalate in the US, and resisting fascism also comes with some challenges.

hayst4ck|1 year ago

I went to a Town Hall and many of the people had family members being kept alive by Medicaid. Imagine a mother of toddlers in her 30's is dying of some cancer imagining paying for her cancer meds while her children likely won't get state assistance, while grandma is about to be removed from her state assisted old folks home.

Imagine having a special needs child about to lose assistance...

Right now America is going through the stages of grief. We are between Shock and Denial, many of us are in deep Depression. This is literally traumatizing if you are paying attention and understand what is going on.

People who want to resist this are going to end up dead or in jail and that's a truth that's very hard to accept.

Also there's the greater problem. Leave to where? America isn't exceptional. What can happen here can happen in other places. Canada, France, the UK, and Germany are all struggling with far right movements, none of them have a clear answer for fighting oligarchy, they are only reluctantly taking America's warning for how bad it can be. America is generally a fairly well educated country, and if we can't pull off a return to democracy here, I don't see democracy rising anywhere else, just the opposite, I would expect rampant nationalism and resource protection.

rahton|1 year ago

Just to clarify, I am well aware it is a (very) tough decision to make and that is even harder to put in place... and understand the moral challenge involved. But I am very worried about what will come next too. People will die resisting, there is no doubt about it. Europe isn't a safe heaven but having experienced both sides of the pond in the last ten years, I believe the political situation is still far better here. I may be wrong.

jredwards|1 year ago

Why not just abandon everyone that I love to suffer?