I have been using 1Password for the last several years and am quite happy with them, except for the fact that they basically forced users to use their cloud offering with subscription as opposed to free iCloud storage after 1Password version 7.
Highly recommend Strongbox. The underlying DBs are KeePass DBs and can be stored anywhere as well as opened with any KeePass client, with a UI even better than 1Password (you can have columns for every field) as well as passkey support + export/import (even before the official method came out because they believe in you owning your own data).
I love it because Strongbox also has its own cloud feature (optional) that is just a hosted KeePass DB which makes it easy to have a shared DB with my partner.
The only downside for me: there isn’t a universal search that searches all DBs for credentials. So if you are in a browser and trying to autofill, you need to select the DB you want it to populate from.
> except for the fact that they basically forced users to use their cloud offering
Yeah that's when I left 1P after having bought hundreds of dollars of licenses for myself and my family (for multiple OS).
The other big thing was self hosting the vault. You used to be able to sync the vault with Dropbox and access it from a browser but at some point Dropbox killed public folders. It would have cost 1P pennies to store the vaults of paying customers in S3 buckets. Instead they decided to use that as leverage to force people into subscriptions.
With the way the Apple is going in the UK, I'd rather give 1Password the keys to the kingdom.
Their whole raison d'etre is protecting your passwords. If they start selling people out, their business implodes.
They also keep adding thoughtful tweaks and new features. A couple years back I thought I'd give it a few years and then hop from 1Password to Bitwarden. But Bitwarden's UI and UX is still subpar (doesn't even support drag 'n drop..)*. All Bitwarden does is invest in enterprise features, which mean jack for the average user.
*dragging items from one vault to another, not a hugely important feature but Bitwarden has a thousand of these kind of paper cuts compared to 1Password
jonpurdy|11 months ago
I love it because Strongbox also has its own cloud feature (optional) that is just a hosted KeePass DB which makes it easy to have a shared DB with my partner.
The only downside for me: there isn’t a universal search that searches all DBs for credentials. So if you are in a browser and trying to autofill, you need to select the DB you want it to populate from.
DavideNL|11 months ago
pier25|11 months ago
Yeah that's when I left 1P after having bought hundreds of dollars of licenses for myself and my family (for multiple OS).
The other big thing was self hosting the vault. You used to be able to sync the vault with Dropbox and access it from a browser but at some point Dropbox killed public folders. It would have cost 1P pennies to store the vaults of paying customers in S3 buckets. Instead they decided to use that as leverage to force people into subscriptions.
Very happy with Bitwarden now.
savolai|11 months ago
jorvi|11 months ago
Their whole raison d'etre is protecting your passwords. If they start selling people out, their business implodes.
They also keep adding thoughtful tweaks and new features. A couple years back I thought I'd give it a few years and then hop from 1Password to Bitwarden. But Bitwarden's UI and UX is still subpar (doesn't even support drag 'n drop..)*. All Bitwarden does is invest in enterprise features, which mean jack for the average user.
*dragging items from one vault to another, not a hugely important feature but Bitwarden has a thousand of these kind of paper cuts compared to 1Password
gruez|11 months ago
What should Apple have done? Defy the government's order? Shut down entirely? They're already fighting it in court.
bognition|11 months ago
The new features released since I bought version 6 has me more than satisfied.
Also using a password manager is one of the most effective things you can do to protect yourself and paying a few bucks a month seems like a steal.
rmellow|11 months ago
That creates distrust in me, so I swapped to BitWarden and haven't looked back.