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throwaway888abc | 11 months ago

China recently moved that direction. That would be nice collaboration to see between EU and China.

China to publish policy to boost RISC-V chip use nationwide, sources say https://www.reuters.com/technology/china-publish-policy-boos...

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tw04|11 months ago

If you ignore the military ambitions of China and the fact they’re openly sharing technology with Russia, perhaps.

I don’t see anything but regret for Europe several decades from now if they decide to start providing China with the technical expertise they’re currently lacking in this space.

This is all about China trying to find a way to escape the pressure of sanctions from Europe and the US.

thomasahle|11 months ago

The EU has to start working more with China, for better or worse.

Not as friends or allies, but there aren't a lot of those left anyway. It's only rational in this multi polar world to have some level of engagement with all parties.

Most of the sanctions Europe have on China were just to please the US anyway.

MaxPock|11 months ago

"This is all about China trying to find a way to escape the pressure of sanctions from Europe and the US" Is this supposed to be a nefarious Chinese activity?

snailmailstare|11 months ago

The EU needs to build arms to defend itself that the US can't interfere with and knows less about, and so does China.

amelius|11 months ago

Didn't ARM start in Europe?

dumbledoren|11 months ago

The military 'ambitions' of China exist only because the military ambitions of the US exist.

Kenji|11 months ago

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duskwuff|11 months ago

Chinese firms have been moving in that direction for some time now. One early adopter was GigaDevice, which started offering RISC-V versions of their microcontrollers (e.g. GD32VF103 - a RISC-V adapted STM32 clone) around 2019.

briandear|11 months ago

If the goal is to decouple from the U.S., why would the EU want to collaborate with a totalitarian state like China?

dgellow|11 months ago

The US is extremely chaotic and unpredictable. China is fairly stable and predictable.

happymellon|11 months ago

Because RISC V results would be something the Europeans could produce?

We are reliant on the US as only 2 companies can make the x86/64 chips. I don't think Europe would be completely against working with a US or Chinese company like Hi Five/Star Five, as long as we weren't dependent on them, and could pull ties if they abused their position of control.

brendoelfrendo|11 months ago

The US and the Soviets were able to cooperate on space missions in spite of their enmity. It's not unreasonable to think that Europe could work with China on a scientific mission, even if the EU or its member states want to keep China at arms-length otherwise. There's an interesting moral quandary there, as to whether cooperation with a totalitarian regime helps diminish or consolidate the regime's power, but this daylight savings thing here in the US is throwing me for a loop so I'm going to have to leave that unanswered for now.

gregman1|11 months ago

While it's important to steer clear of political debates, it's also crucial to acknowledge that the European Union, like any other political entity, has its strengths and weaknesses.

regularjack|11 months ago

At this point, I'd rather my country collaborates with China than the US. And I dislike China's government as much as the next person.

matt-p|11 months ago

Because if the US are aligning with Russia and shunning Europe, then it makes sense for Europe to partner with China and break them off from Russia/USA

addicted|11 months ago

If it’s open source it doesn’t matter who the state they’re collaborating with is.

tehjoker|11 months ago

Simple: China is only totalitarian in western propaganda. "Yellow Peril" is a tired trope, it's a democracy. It's difficult to characterize the U.S. as a democracy, and our social progress is rolling backwards.

MaxPock|11 months ago

EU is friends with totalitarian states like Bahrain,Syria, Qatar and Saudi Arabia.What's wrong with working with another totalitarian state ?

znpy|11 months ago

because we already collaborate, sell and trade with them all the time.

might as well collaborate with them on this as well.

simion314|11 months ago

At UN votes when voting about Ruzzian invasion China abstain while USA voted with Ruzzia and other most despicable dictatorships. Still waiting for a MAGA explain this 5D chess move and explain what the USA citizen won from this.

swarnie|11 months ago

What's the real difference?

I know the US get to have elections but its always between family dynasties, billionaires or corporate stooges. The choice is an illusion.

Lets cut out the middleman and know we're working with a different system for societal structure rather than one that pretends otherwise.

rapsey|11 months ago

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tntxtnt|11 months ago

Because in spite of the west's propaganda, Xi is a good dictator. Singapore was/is also a totalitarian state yet many do business with it.

ndsipa_pomu|11 months ago

I think it'd be nice for collaboration across all nations that want to take part.