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dagenix | 11 months ago

So, a hackier version of Tesla's autopilot? Sounds, uh, terrifying.

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dagenix|11 months ago

I especially like how there is next to no mention about safety on the main page. But at least its only $999 and it has AI and 50k GitHub stars, so, thats nice.

AlotOfReading|11 months ago

They have a basic safety page in the docs [0], which unfortunately has a dead link to their vehicle safety definitions due to a recent PR [1], along with some other safety-related deadlinks in the panda README. Avoiding having to deal with safety is a pretty integral part of their whole process though. They run some basic static analysis/sanitizers/unit tests, and everything past that is out of scope. If you're not okay with that level of verification for your steering control, it's probably not the product for you.

[0] https://docs.comma.ai/concepts/safety/

[1] https://github.com/commaai/panda/pull/2143

norswap|11 months ago

I think it did much better on safety in some tests (no I don't have sources, going from memory :/), but is less capable by design on some more trickier scenarios. Basically pretty much what you would something like this to be.

moscoe|11 months ago

If by terrifying you mean totally awesome, I agree!

Tepix|11 months ago

They don't call it "full self driving", that's a good start

dailykoder|11 months ago

Not as terrifying as humans

Sohcahtoa82|11 months ago

Meh...AP and Comma are driver aids. They're only supposed to reduce the mental load of driving on the highway, not be complete autonomous driving systems.

They're nothing more than traffic aware cruise control with automatic lane keeping. They're not designed to be used on surface streets, and certainly not intended to allow you to read a book or something while driving.