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ponorin | 11 months ago

https://docs.gimp.org/2.6/en/gimp-tool-move.html

in 4.3.2. Options:

> Move the active layer

> Only the current layer will be moved. This may be useful if you want to move a layer with transparent areas, where you can easily pick the wrong layer.

note that version 2.6 was relesed in 2008.

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James_K|11 months ago

So they have a half-baked solution written in a random menu instead of just having it work properly by default? Well that's fine then. Seriously though, the text clickable area should be a bounding box of each line. Having to click the text layer is probably the same effort as fiddling around trying to get the exact location. Software should be welcoming by default, rather than hostile until you read every sub-menu to find the key shortcut that makes it bearable. It's bad UX in the same way not having a shape tool was bad UX. Sure you can look up "how to draw circle" and find out that you use the circle selection and stroke tool, but that's not intuitive for anyone.

ponorin|11 months ago

> So they have a half-baked solution written in a random menu instead of just having it work properly by default?

i fail to see how an option for moving (visible by default), in a move tool, is "a half-baked solution (..) in a random menu." you don't move around text with a text tool, so where else should it be?

> Seriously though, the text clickable area should be a bounding box of each line.

gimp allows an arbitrary bounding box size for text layers. this enables, among other things, to conform text into a specific bounding box (i.e., no need to manually press enter to keep text inside a specific area). calculating the hit point with a bounding box instead of the content will invite even more confusion as people complain that text layer keeps moving when "i pressed the other thing."

also because people often praise krita for being the sane one, without apparently having used either of them for more than 5 minutes, krita has 3 different "move" tools and 2 different resize tools for text, each doing different things. probably the most confusing decision on krita is to make "mouse pointer tool" vector only. the program does tell you to use the move tool when you try it, but they could have just... make bitmaps movable with the "mouse pointer." nothing i can think of prohibits them from doing this.

also krita's move tool defaults to moving the selected layer without a visible option to change this behaviour, unlike gimp. so gimp is actually better even by your standard.