[Jzush]

Yup, and meanwhile the performance has dropped dramatically. I had 4 Roku's in the house. I've replaced all of them at this point. They're pure trash.

I replaced 2 of them with Apple TV's, 1 ONN 4k and 1 unbranded Android based media streamer.

My biggest problem with Apple TV for the longest time was the horrible remotes. The card thin, touch sensitive remote is the worst product Apple has ever made. The new remote is a huge step up, especially if you turn off the dpad touch feature.

Roku is dead to me.

[chuckadams]

> The card thin, touch sensitive remote is the worst product Apple has ever made.

What about the original iMac puck mouse? Or the eMate?

But that remote is up there all right. Or should I say, down there.