[gttalbot]

Much too quiet here on HN on this post

Science underpins technology, people.

If you want to see the US rapidly lose its place in the tech world over the next decade, this is a great way to go about it.

[jvanderbot]

Yes of course.

The problem is what can be done? The usual arrangement of letter writing or donating and voting is just more of the same cycle.

I'm not by any means in favor of what's going on, but some steam has to be let out of the system. And the real problem is trust in our institutions. What can be done about that?

[adamtaylor_13]

My thoughts exactly. I certainly have throes of people on Facebook complaining about this, but what shall I, the individual, do about this?

I have my causes to which I devote great time and personal effort, but if I stopped my life for every minor disaster I would spend my life shaking my fist at my computer.

I quite like my life and I don’t intend to spend it getting rage baited by never-ending news cycles.

Give me an action to take, not an emotion to feel.

[fallingknife]

The institutions have lost trust by sneaking political decisions through under the guise of science. Science can tell you what will happen if you make a certain decision, but it can't tell you what decision to make because that is a fundamentally non scientific question. They can regain trust by acting in a trustworthy manner.

[ModernMech]

Chain yourself to a Tesla dealership. I'm serious. Getting Elon Musk to cry about how unfair he's being treated on TV amidst the damage he's doing will do more to hasten his departure than any letter or check you can write.

[johntitorjr]

Mass protests and non-violent civil disobedience. I hope that we don't reach a point where going beyond that is required.

[SecretDreams]

I've noticed on HN that any post involving less wholesome takes on the US admin and/or doge leadership become brigaded quite heavily with more lower quality discourse than the normal fare.

It's a really interesting phenomenon. And I'm kind of surprised the community allows it.

[davidw]

TBH, politics is and should be taken elsewhere because it is much more important than most of what we discuss here and therefore could easily crowd out everything else.

[ModernMech]

If things go for much longer it'll be too late. In many ways it already is. Scientists I know are changing careers. Thinking of moving. Other countries are thinking about how they can take advantage of the brain drain. Even if things turn around today so much damage has been done already that it'll be felt for a long time.

[bloomingkales]

The only hope we have is that Trump is a true circus ring master. He cancels the previous admin things and reinstates them with his name and a republican spin.

[jmclnx]

>If you want to see the US rapidly lose its place in the tech world over the next decade, this is a great way to go about it.

Too late, unless DOGE is stopped now and Trump is impeached, the US will lose its lead in tech and health (pharma) and many other industries. Pure and simple. Already the smartest of the smart are leaving the US for Europe and probably China.

If this is allowed to continue, in 6 months to a year, the US will be isolated and a third rate economy. All it will have is a first class war machine, which will not bode well for the world.

[jimbokun]

> All it will have is a first class war machine

And that won't last for much longer after losing those other sectors, either, as military dominance is a function of economic and technological superiority.

[lolinder]

> Much too quiet here on HN on this post

This whole topic has been done to death on HN, and this post doesn't contribute much that hasn't already been discussed extensively. Science underpins technology, but we've had 2-3 DOGE-related topics pinned to the front page at a time nonstop since the inauguration and the subject is bleeding incessantly into every other submission on the site.

Rest assured you'll have another 500+ comment rage fest in the near future, probably this week. This one just doesn't have enough going to feed the rage spiral—it's pretty blase compared to the dosage we've worked ourselves up to.