[slimscsi]

This mentality is exactly the problem. The idea that people with more money should get to decide how people with less money get to spend it. And if they don't sped it the way they want, Its waste.

reminds me a lot of Innuendo Studios "Always a bigger fish" video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=agzNANfNlTs

[JumpCrisscross]

> if they don't sped it the way they want, Its waste

If the people doing the work have to spend taxes so people who don’t work can stay at home, yes, the former get a say in how the latter live.

[slimscsi]

This is a straw man. Nobody is talking about funding people to the point where they get everything they need for free. That's insane. We are talking about giving people bootstraps so they can pull them selves up with them. Reducing poverty reduces crime and health care costs as well.

[dredmorbius]

Last I checked, the United States does in fact have representation. At least nominally, and quite arguably beyond that.

The objection above seems far less about representation than taxation, and the original objection explicitly allows for the latter.