[carlosdp]

Ok first of all,

> There's a trend on social media where many repeat Andrej Karpathy's words: "give in to the vibes, embrace exponentials, and forget that the code even exists." This belief — like many flawed takes humanity holds — comes from laziness, inexperience, and self-deluding imagination.

I'm going to go ahead and give the author the benefit of the doubt that they aren't literally saying Andrej Karpathy is "lazy and inexperienced", because that claim is obviously absurd.

In general though, I think the author is missing the actual point Karpathy was making! Let's look at his detailed criticisms for the typescript agent run, for example:

> Regularly clones TypeScript interfaces instead of exporting the original and importing it.

> Reinvents components all the time with the same structure without searching the code base for an existing copy of that component.

These are only problems for human codebases. You're not vibing if you are expecting agents to write code the way humans would.

Duplicating interfaces and implementations is inefficient, and would be a nightmare, in a human codebase. But, the code will still work! So if an AI agent is managing the codebase, who cares if it duplicates things all the time?

Maybe it'll see that it did that later and decide to consolidate things, maybe it won't. It doesn't affect the actual outcome of the code, unless you actually look at the code as a human, which is not "vibe coding."

> When told to fix styles with precise details, it will alter the wrong component entirely.

> When told specifically where there are many duplicated components and instructed to refactor, will only refactor the first instance of that component in the file instead of all instances in all files.

> When told to refactor code, fails to search for the breaks it caused even when told to do so.

You're thinking about the code again, gotta stop doing that if you actually want to ~vibe code~. Refactoring code isn't a thing when you're vibe coding, English is your programming language now, the Typescript (or w/e language) is the assembly. You wouldn't spend much time observing the assembly output of your compiler (especially for web dev), so why are you observing the code output of your agent?

If you don't want to vibe code, that's fine, nobody is forcing you to. But if you're going to do it, grade it on the metric that Andrej was actually claiming: that you can get working results on a lot of software projects today by telling coding agents to make some code do something, and then just keep running it with "fix this bug" until it works, and it'll often get to a working result.

He never claimed that the code outputted would be beautiful, from a human perspective, or well formatted, or well architected, or efficient.