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davidham | 11 months ago

Are you sure? He used it to help get Donald Trump elected, and now Musk has an unassailable position in government and tremendous power to steer government spending to his businesses, and to cripple the agencies that regulate them.

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llm_nerd|11 months ago

Unassailable?

Musk is a lightning rod. Surely he must realize that after he has served his purpose, he will be cast aside and likely end up imprisoned if not worse, right?

Have people paid no attention to what happens to almost everyone in Trump's orbit? In Musk's case it will be hugely politically valuable to use him as a sponge for anger, pretend that he was free-ranging, and cast him aside. Therefore Oceania had always been at war with Eurasia. We've seen this pattern with Trump time and time again, and it's amazing that Musk seems so completely delusional about this guaranteed outcome.

root_axis|11 months ago

I think the idea that Trump and Musk have a falling out is wishful thinking - they have too many aligned long-term incentives. Also, Trump consistently rewards public loyalty, especially the extremely sycophantic kind that Elon exudes. "Unassailable" is a dramatic way to phrase it, but its more or less accurate.

davidham|11 months ago

Musk is different from the other people in Trump’s orbit. Trump can’t afford to throw Musk aside or turn him into an enemy. Not yet anyway.

This is not to say that there won’t be a breakup, there may yet be. But it seems like Musk was able to parlay his Twitter investment into tremendous direct influence over the government, a pearl without price. I don’t know that he ever cared whether Twitter made money or not.

ergocoder|11 months ago

I just saw Trump in a press conference announcing huge funding for OpenAI, whom Musk tries to destroy

“Tremendous power” you say?

root_axis|11 months ago

He obviously has tremendous influence, that's basically indisputable. That doesn't mean there aren't other influences in the mix.

naasking|11 months ago

> He used it to help get Donald Trump elected

The idea that X had any influence on the election is laughable.

dboreham|11 months ago

For the set of people I know who seem to hold weird false ideas about society and politics, all of them appear to get those ideas from Twitter.

9rx|11 months ago

> The idea that X had any influence on the election is laughable.

Likewise, the idea that a hammer has influence on building a house is laughable. But, of course, that is not what was said. It was said that Elon Musk had influence, helped by tools like X.

I fully expect that "Elon is gonna come and clean up all the useless jobs in government just like he did at X!" won a lot of votes. So, while X itself has no influence – it is inanimate, it was undoubtedly an important tool in allowing Musk to achieve the influence he offered.