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batata_frita | 11 months ago

Why do I have the feel that nobody is too much excited to google's models compared to other companies?

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owlninja|11 months ago

Yea I get a little bummed but I guess a lot of HNers have reasons to not like google. I've had a Google One membership forever so opted for the higher subscription with Gemini access since the beginning (plus a free year with new Pixel phone). and I think it is awesome.

Davidzheng|11 months ago

I feel like Google intentionally don't want people to be as excited. This is a very good model. Definitely the best available model today.

bklyn11201|11 months ago

Most of us care only about coding performance, and Sonnet 3.5 has been such a giant winner that we don't get too excited about the latest model from Google.

crimsoneer|11 months ago

Because most of the LLM hype is still generated by people who don't use them in production, and those people don't use GCP

gck1|11 months ago

For me personally - rate limit of 50/day means that I can't use it as daily driver so I'll have to go back to Sonnet which will gladly accept my money for more. Then I just forget it exists.

sagarpatil|11 months ago

Yeah, if I don’t have higher rate limits, it’s useless. This just sounds like a gimmick launch where they want to gather feedback. It will be a couple of months before this will be GA.

Mond_|11 months ago

Google is worse at marketing and hyping people up.

dmix|11 months ago

The internal incentives must not align with new things making money.

ipsum2|11 months ago

They're not good models. They over fit to LMArena leaderboard, but perform worse in real life scenarios compared to their competitors.

The exceptions are auto regressive image generation and audio models.