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davmre | 11 months ago

Scholarly consensus is that the "Gospel of Matthew" was not written by the apostle Matthew and the "Gospel of John" was not written by the apostle John:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gospel_of_Matthew#Author_and_d...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gospel_of_John#Authorship

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Ninjinka|11 months ago

For that assertion to hold water, "scholarly consensus" would have to define "scholarly" so narrowly as to exclude the vast majority of scholars (it seems like it should go without saying that most scholars in this area are Christian who maintain apostolic authorship).

Perhaps they are dismissing scholars who identify as Christian? That would be quite the catch-22.

jarpadat|11 months ago

In case you are interested, here is some data on how scholars view apostolic authorship: https://thesacredpage.com/2024/12/13/the-2024-survey-of-paul...

To me, it is apparent that the data cannot support any clean division between two "sides", it tells a more complicated story about sometimes there was apostolic authorship, sometimes not, and sometimes we don't really know.

I would suggest that the real academic consensus is that we can confidently rule out the us-vs-them preoccupation that is common in lay discussion.

goatlover|11 months ago

Where do the attributions come from, Papias? He claimed Mark wrote down Peter's teachings in the wrong order, and that Matthew's gospel was written in Hebrew. But the Matthew we have is in Greek, copies from Mark and shares other Greek material with Luke (Q source).

normalaccess|11 months ago

And 8 out of 10 dentists prefer Colgate...