[seryoiupfurds]

Oh yeah, I definitely agree that it's an undesirable housing option, and that it shouldn't be a priority to grow it into the future.

The problem is that in cities that have regulated apartments out of existence it's the only existing place for renters to live, so we should be mindful of things that will squeeze its availability before enough apartments can be built to take up the demand.

[steveBK123]

I mean zoning to me really is the crux of it.

In expensive Brooklyn all the dense, high-rise new construction is along the water front .. 15 minutes walk from the trains. The buildings are so far from the trains, that many of them advertise private shuttle services to entice buyers/renters.

Meanwhile the subway stations that the shuttle take you to are surrounded by blocks and blocks of 3 story buildings.

Its all completely backwards, except that there was no existing constituency living on the water front to protest & block new development.