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berdon | 11 months ago

From what I have been told (specific to the US army):

- Enlisted swear oaths to the constitution and President

- Officers swear an oath to the constitution

I’ve only been told this, I don’t claim to know.

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ncallaway|11 months ago

You can just google the oaths that people take.

- enlisted: https://www.army.mil/values/oath.html

> I, _____, do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; and that I will obey the orders of the President of the United States and the orders of the officers appointed over me, according to regulations and the Uniform Code of Military Justice. So help me God. (Title 10, US Code; Act of 5 May 1960 replacing the wording first adopted in 1789, with amendment effective 5 October 1962).

- officers: https://www.army.mil/values/officers.html

> I ___, do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; that I take this obligation freely, without any mental reservation or purpose of evasion; and that I will well and faithfully discharge the duties of the office on which I am about to enter. So help me God. (Title 5 U.S. Code 3331, an individual, except the President, elected or appointed to an office of honor or profit in the civil service or uniformed services)

mingus88|11 months ago

Take a look at the Oath Keepers or the 3%ers and let me know if you think they are going to do the right thing here.

They took an oath to protect their interests. That’s it and that’s all.

wongarsu|11 months ago

Which does match what GP said. Enlisted swear to defend the constitution and obey the president. No limitation to lawful orders or stated precedence between the too. Commissioned officers don't swear to obey the president

sorcerer-mar|11 months ago

They swear that they will obey lawful orders from their commanders, all the way up to the President.

vbezhenar|11 months ago

Who decides whether order is lawful or not?