[mesk]

USA, the land of unlimited possibilities...of how to get detained without a process...for expressing opinions...by the government repating that we have finally free speach and the dark ages are gone...while revisiting history to avoid dangerous words such as a 'women'...

And I've thought our wana-be-authorian politicians are greates idiots of all, but there seems to be running some kind of global world competion to find them and let them ruin their countries.

[darkwater]

> while revisiting history to avoid dangerous words such as a 'women'...

What happened? I missed that (I'm not ironic, I would really like to know what else they did).

[fabian2k]

I suspect this refers to the list of words that are used to filter out and likely cancel or block various grants. Those words are about what the current US government considers DEI, but they are ridiculously broad and include words like "woman".

[brettermeier]

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2025/03/07/us/trump-fede...

[vkou]

The politicians aren't idiots, they don't actually believe anything they say.

The idiots are the people whose support they politicians are courting.

[hapticmonkey]

The recent signal leak shows that they really do believe this stuff. insert american flag and prayer emojis

[sofixa]

Some of them are. Have you ever heard anything said by the current US president? It's just incoherent rambling.

Then we also have the Signal chat, and even biographies and books by some of the others that makes it clear done of these people are genuinely dumb as fuck.

[atoav]

This was true 8 years ago. Now I wouldn't be so sure about it anymore. I wouldn't make a bet that there isn't a single Republican out there who truly believes in some of the crazy stuff they are saying.

But of course the survival of crazy policies hinges on people willing to elect politicians who will implement them. And that in turn hinges on how well you disinform them.

[yapyap]

whether you pretend to be an idiot and do idiotic things or are an idiot and do idiotic things doesn’t matter, the outcome is the same.

Matter of fact pretending to be an idiot and doing idiotic things might be worse cause you know better, an idiot’s excuse would be that that’s all they know to do.

[johnisgood]

Most of what you said applies to the UK as well, for what it's worth.

[eterm]

It really doesn't, that's Fox news level of propaganda.

Does the UK have an issue with over-policing of twitter? Absolutely it does.

Are the tightening of protest laws concerning? Yes, very much so.

But it's nothing like the rhetoric and destruction of due process happening in the USA.

[marcuschong]

While there is legitimate debate over how authoritarian some policies in Australia or the UK might be in the past few years, these measures operate within established legal frameworks, with judicial oversight and public scrutiny. Even if you view them as overly restrictive, they don't stem from a single "contrarian" movement with a coordinated political agenda. Moreover, neither government is rewriting history to erase specific groups. The fact that hate-speech or migration laws exist doesn’t equate to people being arrested or deported without due process, nor does it imply some monolithic campaign to censor or remove entire populations from the record.

[sofixa]

Does it now, dear whatabouter?

People are getting arrested and deported with no due process for expressing opinions? The UK government is rewriting history to remove women and gays?

No, you're just confusing the existence of hate crimes in UK law, and maybe the dumb migrant detention in Rwanda scheme (which has since been cancelled), both of which have due process, are public, and ridiculous to compare.