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Amazon introduces Nova Chat

78 points| ao98 | 11 months ago |aboutamazon.com

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_huayra_|11 months ago

Still can't seem to do RAG or otherwise answer questions about a specific URL. Seems kinda useless compared to even copilot or Gemini 2.5 unless I'm missing something.

I asked it to summarize this thread [0] and it just said "that thread is about the monthly "who's hiring"' on HN", not even close.

[0] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43533516

ao98|11 months ago

Here's the actual link to the product: https://nova.amazon.com/chat

_fat_santa|11 months ago

Amazon should have taken a page out of literally everyone elses book and made it public. But no Amazon being Amazon, ofc you have to sign in

icu|11 months ago

I don't really understand where this fits in the market? It's not as intelligent as the pack leaders and is about onpar with GPT-4o mini. When comparing it to GPT-4o mini further, while it is a bit faster, GPT-4o mini is a lot more cheaper [Source: https://artificialanalysis.ai/models/nova-pro/providers].

In terms of value for money, I would probably go with GPT-4o mini and not Nova Pro. Maybe Amazon feels that it needs to have their own offering to stay relevant?

atonse|11 months ago

My guess is it's also about enterprise agreements.

For many larger enterprises, governments, etc, the barrier to trying these things is to pay for them (new contracts, RFPs, etc).

But all of them already have enterprise agreements with MS, Amazon, etc. So there must be some class of customers to whom it's easy to just add this to their AWS bill.

kristjansson|11 months ago

Seems like there's going to be some trademark conflict with https://novaapp.ai/ ?

oezi|11 months ago

Nova because it just means 'new' isn't a term anybody can trademark.

999900000999|11 months ago

Is every multi billion dollar tech company working on this ?

The image generation looks like it's at least a full year behind.

barbazoo|11 months ago

Every cloud provider, which makes some sense I guess.

esafak|11 months ago

Let them use it to improve Rufus, their in-store AI search. Now that would be invaluable to Amazon customers.

siva7|11 months ago

>> Amazon makes it easier for developers and tech enthusiasts to explore Amazon Nova

Well, you don't. Can't find a simple way to try it out. Not that i expected anything else. The only thing saving AWS in the AI wave seems to be their deal with Anthropic.

arresin|11 months ago

If it’s anything like AWS then that makes sense. Why is the UI for all cloud providers absolutely dogshit? Has anyone written about this?

asdev|11 months ago

more undifferentiated offerings, and people don't want to admit AI is plateauing

hu3|11 months ago

Well they certainly have the GPUs for that.

I wonder if this will squeeze cloud GPU pricing even more or it's already priced.

ZeroCool2u|11 months ago

Do they?? Trying to get GPU's from AWS at work is like pulling teeth for me.

nyarlathotep_|11 months ago

Is this just an "us too!" offering? What is the purpose of this exactly? Promo project?

Jotalea|11 months ago

If I had a cent for every brand named Nova, I'd have a dollar.

theshrike79|11 months ago

> Thank you for your interest in Amazon Nova. At this time, we are only accepting customers in the US.

weberer|11 months ago

Every single time

monkmartinez|11 months ago

I can't tell if this is sarcastic or genuine surprise.

ZeroCool2u|11 months ago

The UI is kind of horrendous. Not even a dark mode. I also have a hard time imagining wanting to use BedRock at this point. Still can't use any of the leading models besides Claude, plus IAM config is comparatively painful, and you have to setup bedrock-access-gateway to get an OpenAI compatible API for tools that expect that API setup.

jdmg94|11 months ago

Amazon likes to force their devs into full stack roles, like they'll hire you for a frontend role and you'll end up writing java. Some teams do recognize the need for specialization, but generally speaking UI at amazon is an afterthought.

weberer|11 months ago

The AWS console supports dark mode. Just click the gear icon in the top bar.