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Doge Is Trying to Gift Itself a $500M Building

87 points| thefreeman | 11 months ago |wired.com

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lubujackson|11 months ago

Next DOGE will defund gasoline in police cars and applaud their "trillions of savings" over the next 1,000 years.

I feel bad for anyone that is spending their lives on forums defending these puffed up hall monitors who were sent in to "fuck shit up" and will eventually end up in jail as scapegoats.

josefritzishere|11 months ago

To be clear the United States Institute for Peace is not a federal agency. It's a non-profit buisness with an EIN 52-1503251 and a W9 like every other non-profit. DOGE seized a private business. If they can seize USIP they can seize your start up. There's no legal difference. Here's their 990 form: https://filing-service.s3-us-west-2.amazonaws.com/scanned-pd...

ck2|11 months ago

The USAID building, which may not have actually been an executive agency under WhiteHouse control

They are in full spite mode.

Will take DECADES to rebuild and that may be the point.

spiderfarmer|11 months ago

That’s assuming you’ll start rebuilding this year.

actionfromafar|11 months ago

It's the United States Institute of Peace building the dogebags are stealing. It's hard to keep up with all the grift.

_ea1k|11 months ago

So, the government funds them, the President issued an order to dismantle them, and now another government agency wants the building? That last part seems reasonable.

Whether dismantling them is right or wrong seems to be the real question here.

DarkWiiPlayer|11 months ago

Both are wrong. The "real question" just isn't about this specific case on its own. In a vacuum, this wouldn't really be news in the first place.

The problem is the pattern that this is an example of, and together with all the other cases, it starts to reveal an image of the USA turning into a cleptocracy.

blatantly|11 months ago

In what f'ng way does it seem reasonable. That is almost colonialist logic.

They invaded the premises.

zoezoezoezoe|11 months ago

This is the peak of government efficiency

rich_sasha|11 months ago

Hard to know if this is April Fools. United States Institute of Peace doesn't have a funny acronym.

blatantly|11 months ago

Right now, regarding US news, if it sounds like satire, it probably isn't.

SignalM|11 months ago

Click bait headlines allowed on here now? It clearly states they are giving it to the GSA which is the government - where the funds originally came from. Can't hand these people money without them complaining ..

axus|11 months ago

The US government was intentionally split into 3 parts. This "Institute of Peace" was established and funded by the US Congress. The Executive should be pursuing the intent of the legislation. In general they've been failing to faithfully execute the law.

I'd be totally fine with Congress cancelling the whole thing, but it hasn't happened.

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/22/4604

throwaway5752|11 months ago

It is not an executive building, and they have not claim to it. They will take credit for the cost savings, hence "gift".

This is not clickbait and can't be overstated, there is no precedent for this sort of action in recent history in the US. Your normalcy bias is the problem.

nineplay|11 months ago

No, nothing vaguely critical of the current administration is allowed here now. Astonishing really, I didn't think it would happen on HN of all places.

insane_dreamer|11 months ago

It’s an independent non-executive non-profit established and funded by congress, not an agency under the executive branch.

gagagah|11 months ago

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JohnFen|11 months ago

> Going through DOGE reports

DOGE reports are too unreliable to be worth paying attention to.

cynicalsecurity|11 months ago

US is never going to go insolvent as long as dollar is the world's main currency and as long as US has the strongest army in the world.

USAID was not causing US to go insolvent, it was promoting US soft power in the world. Soft power saves money, for relevant cases it's cheaper than deploying troops.

cholantesh|11 months ago

>Going through DOGE reports [with maximum credulity], it's scary how much money is wasted, squandered and laundered.

Fixed.

JumpCrisscross|11 months ago

> USAID was a massive graft machine

Sort of irrelevant, right? Even if it was all grift, nothing is being saved if those resources are just stolen.

> I fear they will not reach the trillion etc they need in savings to stop the US going insolvent

Trump’s draft budget blows the deficit by $4 trillion to fund tax cuts for wealthy people. (I’d see my taxes go down under his plan, for what it’s worth. My mom, a bank teller, would not.)

watwut|11 months ago

Every time DOGE reports were checked, they contained glaring massive mistakes ... which is still giving them massive benefit of doubt as it is equally likely they just lied.

So, no. No scary waste, squandering or laundering was found by them. However, they themselves are breaking the law, lying and trying to defraud.

theshrike79|11 months ago

You do know that USAID was a CIA front?

A global organisation helping people in countries where Americans aren't really popular? Literally the perfect way of getting agents a legitimate reason to be in the country.

AvAn12|11 months ago

What, Elon can’t afford another office building now?

DarkWiiPlayer|11 months ago

Honestly? Probably not, no. He could convince some loser investor to lend him the money because he's Elon fucking Musk, but I wouldn't assume he has even that much money just lying around.

That being said, an office building or two he could probably fund by just selling some other assets, but he wouldn't have gotten this rich with an attitude of using his own money to buy things for himself.