[nicpottier]

Also the administration claims to be "powerless" to free him now. Does anybody believe this? Terrifying.

This isn't the only case, how many others are out there? https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/apr/01/its-a-tradit...

[nonrandomstring]

This is entirely as it is supposed to operate. See Archibald Tuttle [0]. Cowardly, weak little men who would never have the nerve to look another in the eye, are depicted in Terry Gilliam's "Brazil" in a different way to Orwell's Nineteen Eighty Four. Whereas the "Thought Police" of the latter are happy to use violence, the grey bureaucrats of Gilliam's world hide behind malfunctioning machinery which is their unpredictable attack dog. As with weapon dogs it is a vicarious instrument which they claim to have "no control over".

[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brazil_(1985_film)

[ndsipa_pomu]

I feel that Brazil doesn't get enough love. It's my favourite Xmas movie.

[duxup]

There's no honesty in the current administration, legal arguments or otherwise.

It's all big talk and false macho garbage and then the next moment victim card when the president complains that people say bad things about him and he needs the legal system to come down on critics ...

[rayiner]

You’re complaining about lack of honesty, but you’re talking about an article that fails to mention that this guy was ordered deported in 2019 for gang ties after an administrative appeal. Or that this man immigrated illegally in 2011 but didn’t file an asylum claim until 2018. Or that the immigration judge denied his asylum claim.

The information omitted by the AP article completely changes the understanding of what actually happened.

[rayiner]

He’s an El Salvadoran citizen! He’s in prison because El Salvador believes he’s an MS-13 gang member. If he believes he’s being held wrongfully in El Salvador he can avail himself of the legal procedures of his country. This has nothing to do with the U.S.

[itishappy]

Got a source on El Salvador's position? The article states the MS-13 claims come from the US and are unsubstantiated:

> The allegations about his affiliation with MS-13 stem from a 2019 arrest outside a Maryland Home Depot store, where he and other young men were looking for work, according to the complaint.

They also claim he had legal protections from being deported specifically to El Salvador:

> An immigration judge denied Abrego Garcia’s asylum request in October 2019 but granted him protection from being deported back to El Salvador.

> In its court filing on Monday, the Trump administration said ICE “was aware of his protection from removal to El Salvador,” but still deported Abrego Garcia “because of an administrative error.”

This is the part that concerns the US. Also the part where this is all being paid for by American tax dollars.

[milesrout]

Once you have deported someone it makes sense that they would no longer be under your jurisdiction. Purely logically: they're no longer within it.

[nicpottier]

Except the administration is paying for these people to be in the El Salvadoran prison. Also, since when is the administration that uses threats of giant tariffs to accomplish its goals powerless to right these wrongs?

[UncleMeat]

In my opinion, this should be an 8th amendment violation. "We threw you in a pit forever but its not our pit so your legal protections are void" is not good.

This isn't just flying somebody to their country of origin and leaving them there. This is flying somebody to an unrelated country and the paying a foreign nation to throw them in an overcrowded prison with no oversight for the rest of their lives.

[timcobb]

Right, but if you've been following the situation since the current administration took office, you would know that if they want something, they're not shy to ask.

[giraffe_lady]

They got andrew tate out of a foreign prison without much trouble so it's just about priorities I think.

[QuantumGood]

Backend thought exercise: Do you think they could get back someone they wanted to get back, such as a member of the administration? Do you think they could follow a process that made it easier to get people back?