It doesn't matter how accurate the models are, it's not a "data set" (in the scientific sense), it's more of a conclusion set. Maybe the conclusions are spot on. Maybe not. I have no idea.
Right. At my most generous, this is a dataset about LLM behavior when asked to infer nutritional value. It is in no way a nutrition dataset. It is perhaps useful as half of a benchmark for accuracy, compared to actual ground truth. Unlike a scientist, you're not motivated or resourced enough to create the ground truth dataset. So you took a shortcut and hid it from the landing page.
This workflow, this motivation, this business model, this marketing is an affront to truth itself.
I think there is a real conversation to be had about “data” in a post LMM world, but I actually don’t care about debating definitions here, I care about whether the product works within a reasonable margin of error.
I envisioned many lines of inquiry from HN but the idea that a compressed TSV of nutritional data is not a "dataset" (definition: a collection of related sets of information that is composed of separate elements but can be manipulated as a unit by a computer) was unexpected.
Tried it with unsweetened oat milk and the info was off in nearly every col.
Not representable because I dont have US food but since its AI enhanced I cant compare my stuff with the stuff in the "dataset" and be sure thats an Us vs germany thing..
...it is leaning into a citation from the Australian Nutrient Database (e.g.
Oat beverage, fluid, unfortified. Australian Nutrient Database. Public Food Key F006132.
), which is what I instructed it to do if it thought there was an exact match from a governmental database.
It's possible this is a poor general source for oat milk or that's not the beverage intended for the entry to stand for. I'll check it out, thank you for the report.
rmah|11 months ago
Cheer2171|11 months ago
This workflow, this motivation, this business model, this marketing is an affront to truth itself.
pmichaud|11 months ago
joshdickson|11 months ago
thi2|11 months ago
Not representable because I dont have US food but since its AI enhanced I cant compare my stuff with the stuff in the "dataset" and be sure thats an Us vs germany thing..
joshdickson|11 months ago
It looks like for unsweetened oat milk:
https://www.opennutrition.app/search/unsweetened-oat-milk-mt...
...it is leaning into a citation from the Australian Nutrient Database (e.g. Oat beverage, fluid, unfortified. Australian Nutrient Database. Public Food Key F006132. ), which is what I instructed it to do if it thought there was an exact match from a governmental database.
It's possible this is a poor general source for oat milk or that's not the beverage intended for the entry to stand for. I'll check it out, thank you for the report.