[n0n0n4t0r]

I'm not sure about your argument. For example, symphony can be used as a micro-framework since a long time (https://symfony.com/blog/new-in-symfony-2-8-symfony-as-a-mic...) and very few dependencies are required.

Relying on such heavy tested is a no brainier for me, especially because it offer well designed abstractions. You seem to see them as dragging you down, I see them as opportunity to have hooks at the right place for free.

[JeremieF]

Symfony does offer flexibility with its micro-framework mode. But even in that mode, looking at the screenshot in the article you shared, it still adds around 6ms and 2MB just for the controller initialization (probably a tad better with JIT). On the other hand, Dataphyre initializes in ~490KB as of now and serves hello world pages in about ~2.5ms. My issue isn't with abstractions — it's about avoiding unnecessary overhead. Having started off in embedded programming, I’ve always been driven to chase every byte and clock cycle I can. Dataphyre gives you the freedom to choose what's needed, and that’s why it's able to run an entire 3.5M-line platform while staying lean and fast.

[n0n0n4t0r]

Interesting, thanks