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heeen2 | 10 months ago

I can't comment on the merit of the technical aspects, but I feel like of all the AI generated content, especially AI generated music is as interesting as AI generated memoirs - sort of pointless. It lacks the human element that makes it relatable on an emotional level.

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itchyjunk|10 months ago

You will be able to detect any AI music from human music because of the ability to detect this human element? Or are you saying you'll retroactively hate a song once you figure out it was AI generated?

lesostep|10 months ago

Can't speak for the person, who brought topic up, but I can't detect AI music from any human music. That's to say music rules aren't that hard, you can learn a basic structure, a few popular scales and a write a completely soulless peace yourself. Google "Minor Scale", choose any note as a starter, and here you go. You can even add any popular drum pattern. Soulless music written by humans is dime a dozen. It's out there, people just choose to listen to a better music. Scratch human written, there are algorithms based on music theory that could generate light music endlessly.

But the completely original peaces, written by professionals, aiming to express a feeling, are easily distinguishable from any AI song. AI songs doesn't leave you hanging or waiting, it doesn't know the value of breaking a pattern.

It's Mozart vs Salieri all over again.

freejazz|10 months ago

I think the point is more like, MusicAI might give you a progression from a Bob Dylan song, but it can't give you a Bob Dylan song and it will be easy to discern between the two.

idonotknowwhy|10 months ago

> Or are you saying you'll retroactively hate a song once you figure out it was AI generated?

Can't speak for OP, but for me personally, I don't mind AI augmented content, as long as it's done well. Eg. I recently played a game called "Slay the Princess", where they very clearly used Claude to write a lot of the dialogue/narration, but that didn't detract from the experience.

On the other hand, I hate it when I open a youtube video and the script is 100% chatgpt slop.

Music -- a lot of it is already made using software. If I enjoy listening to it, I don't care how it was made.

What about you?

kace91|10 months ago

I agree for fully generated work, but I think we’ll eventually reach a sweet spot for assisting tools that retain creativity while removing technical blockers. Things like beat quantization for producers but exponentially better.

The trick is going to be surfacing content in the sea of bullshit, though.

otabdeveloper4|10 months ago

Generative API won't ever be able to do this because generative AI (by its very design) can only do averaged, common-denominator stuff.

You need a whole new paradigm of AI/ML stuff to do what you want.

mbrock|10 months ago

sometimes I specifically want to hear music that doesn't have any emotional content

import|10 months ago

Industrial techno is exactly this

TheRealQueequeg|10 months ago

It's giving Daniel Ek a hard-on. Finally, he can replace those arrogant musicians who demand to be paid for their work. /s

earthnail|10 months ago

What's giving Daniel Ek a hard-on is that the music industry realised AI isn't a big threat. AI first made Spotify's stock plummet from $300 to under $80, and once the realisation kicked in that the music industry is more about fame (i.e. real people other people want to relate to) than music itself, the stock price climbed up to $600.