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I agree with everything you said expect I genuinely believe that most pro-lifers would vote for "this law as written will cause the (avoidable) deaths of pregnant mothers who want to keep their babies but have a miscarriage", because murder is a sin under all circumstances.

That’s the problem I have with discussion, we can be eloquent and well reasoned but when two people differ on a belief that is fundamental to the argument there is no agreement possible.

Without a shared reality people develop beliefs so radically different no amount of reasoned argument can change that.

What would make me share your belief, maybe a 50 hours of media of pro-lifers saying abortion is ok to save the mother.