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csunbird | 10 months ago

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probably_wrong|10 months ago

The fact that the experiment takes places in Germany doesn't necessarily mean that the results apply exclusively to basic income in Germany for Germans.

How to better distribute income and how to deal with income inequality are definitely important topics, but that doesn't mean that all research on wealth distribution has to stop there.

tmcb|10 months ago

If the ultra-rich don’t pay their fair share of taxes, yes.

senectus1|10 months ago

why dont we ever talk about a Universal Basic Taxation?

something has has no way to avoid, it doesnt matter how good your accountant is....

oneshtein|10 months ago

In ancient Rome, slave labor was used.

TJSomething|10 months ago

I don't think that's a fair representation of the ancient Roman combination social welfare and grain price stabilization system or of the role slaves had in Roman society.

neilwilson|10 months ago

The other people in the fixed exchange rate area that don’t receive the transfer.

So the Greeks etc. The same people that the Germans have been exporting their unemployment to for twenty years

jstanley|10 months ago

How do you export unemployment?

Propelloni|10 months ago

That's a hot take. Care to elaborate?

xienze|10 months ago

It’s supposed to be paid for by people who’d rather work to earn just a bit more than UBI than do nothing and get paid, obviously.

The fundamental problem with UBI, like every other feel-good economic initiative, is that its proponents make poor assumptions about how the people who stand to benefit will behave — see all the predictions that the folks currently working in fast food or Walmart will magically turn into entrepreneurs or usher in a golden age of art if they simply had $1000 per month in cash. It’s noble to think the best of others, but they just kind of hand wave away the reality that there’s a non-trivial population that aspires to do nothing more than consume drugs and/or play video games for their entire lives. It’s not everyone obviously, but it’s enough to be a problem. Doubly so when you consider they could become a sizable voting bloc that will continue to vote for whoever promises to increase UBI.

When people dismiss UBI studies that last for just a few years and target a small slice of the population, it’s precisely because these long term negative effects take time and people to play out.