ICE Agents Realize They Arrested Wrong Teen, Say 'Take Him Anyway'

[arresin]

If the facts of this case are true: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deportation_of_Kilmar_Abrego... then this is an unthinkable crime and has to be the red line for both sides of politics.

[bloppe]

It doesn't have to be a red line for maga. In fact, for them, the cruelty is the whole point. They want the fear and simply don't care about laws.

[helle253]

My wife is a naturalized citizen (and a brown one with a muslim name, at that)), and to be perfectly honest I'm no longer confident this admin won't start looking into denaturalizating people like her, for no reason except their ethnicity.

It's clear they're taking a 'the Court has written their law. Now let them enforce it.' approach, and it's not clear anybody is going to stop them.

[shepherdjerred]

Are you planning on emigrating?

Just curious. I'm starting to worry it might be the only right option

[int_19h]

You're right to be concerned, given that the circles around Trump, and Trump himself, have been openly discussing denaturalization for some time now.

[angryantant]

> The officers grabbed him and two other boys right at the entrance to our building. One said, 'No, he's not the one,' like they were looking for someone else. But the other said, 'Take him anyway,'

[wnevets]

why is ICE wasting millions of dollars arresting the wrong people but DOGE is cutting cancer research? Its time to abolish ICE.

[ty6853]

Because they are cowards and taking innocent gay barbers, sheet metal workers that are family men, and teenage barely men is easier than facing a tatted up legit MS13 gang member who fires back and fights back.

[lokar]

I really think ICE has quotas to hit. It would explain a lot of their behavior, and it’s clear the king really cares about the weekly numbers.

[duxup]

Imposing their will isn't waste as far as the administration is concerned. All acts, right or wrong can be spun as them doing something.

And the current administration doesn't care about "waste", they only care if the given policy, department, money advances their goals / corruption and etc. They're happy to waste in that context.

[junek]

Because one kind of thing helps people and the other kind of thing inflicts pointless cruelty on the innocent.

And the regime loves pointless cruelty.

[anal_reactor]

It's because average voter prioritizes deportations over cancer research.

[bloppe]

You're thinking about this wrong. There's no place for logical questions here.

[JohnTHaller]

They have quotas to hit to meet the Republican party's fake numbers of 'the people who are to blame'

[unethical_ban]

Because government terror, cutting education, and normalizing authoritarianism and corruption is the point.

[outsidein]

Wake up, American tech people (or anybody with remains of intelligence and humanity). Solve this issue from inside before the system implodes or sets the world even more on fire than it has done already.

[MisterTea]

How much money is the USA paying El Salvador to run this human torture operation? What a disgrace.

[tharmas]

I think its $6 Million.

[tocs3]

https://www.aclu.org/writing-your-elected-representatives

[betaby]

Do they read those messages? In Canada they definitely not - I've never received a reply even from the secretary.

[adamnemecek]

Is the US legit fascist now?

[doesnotexist]

Well there are now many instances of enforced disappearances.[1] To what the administration likes to call jails in Ecuador, except for the fact jails and prisons are part of legitimate criminal justice systems with judicial review/due process. These can be more accurately described as concentration camps given that they lack the features that would make them legitimate jails or detention facilities.

[1] https://www.ohchr.org/en/special-procedures/wg-disappearance...

" [Enforced disappearance] is characterized by three cumulative elements (defined in A/HRC/16/48/Add.3):

A) Deprivation of liberty against the will of the person;

B) Involvement of government officials, at least by acquiescence;

C) Refusal to acknowledge the deprivation of liberty or concealment of the fate or whereabouts of the disappeared person. "

If you think about the administration's unwillingness to comply with the court's ruling to return the individual, who by their own admission, they mistakenly took away due to an "administrative error" there are many open questions. How do we know that the individual is still alive? For that matter, how do we know that all the other people who they say were removed from the country are still alive?

We have no independently verified information as to fates of these people. More likely than not, in the course of these actions by the government, the number of deaths is some number greater than zero. Even if they have not performed outright executions, some deaths as a result of the conditions and or their treatment in custody is almost certain. So is that state sanctioned man slaughter/murder? Does this make ICE a death squad?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_squad

[magicalhippo]

You could check the Realtime Facism Tracker[1], that someone here made[2].

[1]: https://www.realtimefascism.com/

[2]: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42964280

[nabla9]

Illiberal democracy, authoritarian, fascist. Facist sound bad so everyone just jumps to that.

[UncleSlacky]

Yes, has been for a while.

[int_19h]

Not yet, given that we can have this conversation out in the open.

[hiddencost]

https://newbedfordlight.org/lawyer-federal-agents-detain-gua...

[murph-almighty]

It's beyond disgusting to me that the "News Bias meter" on the bottom of the article claims this is "unfairly" biased towards the left. Just because it doesn't reflect well towards your side doesn't mean it's biased.

[drfuzzy89]

I think that's just a poor UI choice. That seems to be its default position until you vote. Once you've voted for how biased you think the article is, it shows you the "Most Popular Rating" which is currently "Center/Fair".

[CharlieDigital]

Possibly 45 more months of this nonsense; kinda insane.

[UncleSlacky]

Bold of you to assume that there will be any more elections.

[xenospn]

45 more months for the SANE part of America to try and come up with a populist candidate that will appeal to the red states. Although I fear it’s not possible to win the presidency without Russian help anymore.

[recursive]

Trump has announced the possibility of a third term.

[CharlieDigital]

The moment due process breaks down -- even for actual infractions of the law -- that means everyone (you and I included) has lost due process.

You should want due process for criminals because due process is how is how you can prove that you are innocent when falsely accused. There is no such thing as "due process for me, but not for thee" because one day, you might be on the "thee" end.

[dawnerd]

Yes. Read the article.

Edit: even if he wasn’t, there’s a proper process for deportations. Sending someone without due process to a supermax prison let alone a country they’re not even from isn’t it.