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What do you mean "ignoring" it? Biden deported hundreds of thousands of people, surpassing even Trump's records. https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c36e41dx425o

If the only practical way to deport the "right" amount of people is to disobey the courts and catch innocent Americans in the dragnet and deny them of due process, then maybe we shouldn't do that.

You say that their motivations are understandable, but so are the reasons behind extermination camps. They are ruthlessly efficient. Having a reason for doing something does not make it right, just, or legal.

At the end of the day, we have sent dozens of immigrants with legal status and no criminal history to El Salvador's version of Guantanamo Bay, where people do indeed die with regularity. Here's something from last year:

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/el-salvadors-prisons-deat...

So, we're sending Americans of a certain stripe (color) to camps in other countries where there is no escape, and where it is not unlikely they will perish.

What do you call this?

[_bin_]

This is such a straw man. The motives behind extermination camps aren't, actually. The reasonable response to someone entering your country illegally is to remove him. This is proportionate and just. I think Trump is very much skirting the rules and figure courts will smack him over it, but it's about time we changed the system so illegals can be quickly removed without fifty thousand appeals. Otherwise the system does not work and we are conceding our borders to a flood of third-worlders, which is a bad idea.

It's also essential we alter our asylum system such that anybody who skips over another country to get here is automatically denied. If someone is fleeing guatemala and has to travel up through central America to get here, he should not be granted asylum. Stop in any one of those countries you passed along the way.

Note that legal status can be revoked for anyone besides a citizen. This is actually one of the less illegal moves trump's admin has made. I have a problem with what appears to be targeting based on support for palestine but not with the core concept: they all have to go back. Every single one of them.

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> conceding our borders to a flood of third-worlders

Feels a bit like a mask off moment.

there's a mountain of evidence that shows immigrants are the backbone of important parts of our economy, pay taxes, and commit crimes at a far lower rate than native born people.

The laws and processes around immigration are a significant factor in creating "illegals." Why not adjust our laws to accommodate normal, innocent people who come here simply to work, live, and survive?

If we applied more resources to processing immigrants and making it easier to come here legally it would be a boon to our population, economy, and subjectively, our culture.

The opposite is true for deporting 11 million people. The cost outweigh the benefits at every single turn, unless your ultimate benefit is removing the supposed "third worlders" i.e. brown people. (aside: why is a person from the third world an inherent negative?)

The border should be permeable to people escaping oppression or looking for a better life. It's not like we're hurting for space or money, we just actually have to DO something.

Here is some great fact-based review of our immigration policies (from a source typically opposed to my worldview, mind you)

https://www.cato.org/testimony/real-cost-open-border-how-ame...

I hope you take the time to read through.

on your final point, regarding Palestinian support: what about the perfectly legal immigrants that we have deported because of political views? That seems particularly fascist to me.