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cornel_io | 10 months ago

None of that seems at all user-hostile to me, it's literally all aimed at making sure what the user is shown is more likely to actually be useful to them.

I guess this is a big and probably unbridgeable divide, some people think this sort of thing is obviously evil and others, like me, actually prefer it very strongly over a world where all advertising is untargeted but there is massively more of it because it's so much less valuable...

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porridgeraisin|10 months ago

I'm on the other side of the divide from you.

However, mine and many other folks' position is not preferring untargeted intrusive annoying ads over targeted intrusive annoying ads. It's preferring almost zero ads with maybe the rare, non intrusive easily avoidable ad on certain appropriate websites[1]. That is why we aggressively use ad blockers and go to great lengths to avoid the status quo.

[1] a shopping website having a _single_ banner on the home page announcing an ongoing sale for HP laptops is OK. However, if I search for lenovo laptops and I see a HP laptop as the first "sponsored" result....(Looking at you amazon).

And about tracking, I absolutely don't want my librarian running to my travel agent telling him I recently looked up france travel guides. The digital equivalent of this happens daily to everybody. It's simply a no-no for me, there can never be a justification for it.

The fact is that if you ban these two classes of practices, the whole of ad tech comes crashing down. I hope everyday for this to happen.

LunaSea|10 months ago

> That is why we aggressively use ad blockers and go to great lengths to avoid the status quo.

And so you're paying for the content you're reading as well?

throw-qqqqq|10 months ago

I think that is a false dichotomy. Targeting does not necessarily lead to fewer ads.

I am old enough to remember the world before targeted ads (and internet), and back then I did not see more ads than today - on the contrary!

sidewndr46|10 months ago

"useful to them" - do I really need to know how much one day dental implants cost in 2025?

dboreham|10 months ago

They do them in one day now?