[blueyes]

One of the main advantages Anthropic currently has over Google is the tooling that comes with Claude Code. It may not generate better code, and it has a lower complexity ceiling, but it can automatically find and search files, and figure out how to fix a syntax error fast.

[bayarearefugee]

As another person that cancelled my Claude and switched to Gemini, I agree that Claude Code is very nice, but beyond some initial exploration I never felt comfortable using it for real work because Claude 3.7 is far too eager to overengineer half-baked solutions that extend far beyond what you asked it to do in the first place.

Paying real API money for Claude to jump the gun on solutions invalidated the advantage of having a tool as nice as Claude Code, at least for me, I admit everyone's mileage will vary.

[neuah]

Exactly my experience as well. Started out loving it but it almost moves too fast - building in functionality that i might want eventually but isn't yet appropriate for where the project is in terms of testing, or is just in completely the wrong place in the architecture. I try to give very direct and specific prompts but it still has the tendency to overreach. Of course it's likely that with more use i will learn better how to rein it in.

[roygbiv2]

I wanted some powershell code to do some sharepoint uploading. It created a 1000 line logging module that allowed me to log things at different levels like info, debug, error etc. Not really what I wanted.

[tough]

Open Codex (A codex fork) that supports gemini and openrouter providers https://github.com/ymichael/open-codex

google models on cli are great.

[btbuildem]

"Don't be a keener. Do not do anything I did not ask you to do" are def part of my prompts when using Claude

[Sonnigeszeug]

Whats your setup/workflow then?

Any ide integration?

[igor47]

I've switched to aider with the --watch-files flag. Being able to use models in nvim with no additional tooling is pretty sweet

[aitchnyu]

Typing `//use this as reference ai` in one file and `//copy this row to x ai!` and it will add those functions/files to context and act on both places. Altough I wish Aider would write `working on your request...` under my comment, now I have to keep Aider window in sight. Autocomplete and "add to context" and "enter your instructions" of other apps feel clunky.

[mediaman]

That's really cool. I've been looking for a nicer solution to use with nvim.

[mrinterweb]

I don't understand the appeal of investing in leaning and adapting your workflow to use an AI tool that is so tightly coupled to a single LLM provider, when there are other great AI tools available that are not locked to a single LLM provider. I would guess aider is the closest thing to claude code, but you can use pretty much any LLM.

The LLM field is moving so fast that what is the leading frontier model today, may not be the same tomorrow.

Pricing is another important consideration. https://aider.chat/docs/leaderboards/

[smallnamespace]

All the AI tools end up converging on a similar workflow: type what you want and interrupt if you're not getting what you want.

[vladmdgolam]

There are at least 10 projects currently aiming to recreate Claude Code, but for Gemini. For example, geminicodes.co by NotebookLM’s founding PM Raiza Martin

[wcallahan]

Tried Gemini Codes yesterday, as well as anon-kode and anon-codex. Gemini Codes is already broken and appears to be rather brittle (she disclosures as much), and the other two appear to still need some prompt improvements or someone adding vector embedding for them to be useful?

Perhaps someone can merge the best of Aider and codex/claude code now. Looking forward to it.

[energy123]

Google need to fix their Gemini web app at a basic level. It's slow, gets stuck on Show Thinking, rejects 200k token prompts that are sent one shot. Aistudio is in much better shape.

[Graphon1]

But have you tried any other interfaces for Gemini? Like the Gemini Code Assistant in VSCode? Or Gemini-backed Aider?

[shrisukhani]

+1 on this. Improving Gemini apps and live mode will go such a long way for them. Google actually has the best model line-up now but the apps and APIs hold them back so much.

[johnisgood]

I hate how I can copy paste long text into Claude (becomes a pasted text) and it is accepted, but in Gemini it is limited.

[mogili]

I use roo code with Gemini to get similar results for free

[ssd532]

Does its agentic features work with any API? I had tried this or Cline and it was clear that they work effectively only with Claude's tooling support.

[julianeon]

Related:

Only Claude (to my knowledge) has a desktop app which can directly, and usually quite intelligently, modify files and create repos on your desktop. It's the only "agentic" option among the major players.

"Claude, make me an app which will accept Stripe payments and sell an ebook about coding in Python; first create the app, then the ebook."

It would take a few passes but Claude could do this; obviously you can't do that with an API alone. That capability alone is worth $30/month in my opinion.

[xvinci]

Maybe I am not understanding something here.

But there are third party options availabe that to the very same thing (e.g. https://aider.chat/ ) which allow you to plug in a model (or even a combination thereof e.g. deepseek as architect and claude as code writer) of your choice.

Therefore the advantage of the model provider providing such a thing doesn't matter, no?

[int_19h]

A first party app, sure, but there's no shortage of third party options. Cursor, Windsurf/Codeium etc. Even VSCode has agent mode now.

[dingnuts]

> first create the app, then the ebook."

> It would take a few passes but Claude could do this;

I'm sorry but absolutely nothing I've seen from using Claude indicates that you could give it a vague prompt like that and have it actually produce anything worth reading.

Can it output a book's worth of bullshit with that prompt? Yes. But if you think "write a book about Python" is where we are in the state of the art in language models in terms of the prompt you need to get a coherent product, I want some of whatever you are smoking because that has got to be the good shit

[indexerror]

OpenAI just released Codex, which is basically the same as Claude Code.

[thrdbndndn]

Copilot agent mode?

[WiSaGaN]

Also the "project" feature in claude improves experience significantly for coder, where you can customize your workflow. Would be great if gemini has this feature.

[mdhb]

Firebase Studio is the Google equivalent