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zefhous | 10 months ago

Oof this bit is rough!

> The startup supports Postgres, the most popular developer database system that’s an alternative to Google’s Firebase. Supabase’s goal: To be a one-stop backend for developers and "vibe coders."

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gkoberger|10 months ago

Enabling more people to make cool things themselves isn't necessarily a bad thing.

jsheard|10 months ago

It's all fun and games until you realize the cool thing you made is locked into an overpriced cloud stack that will bleed you dry. "Vibe coders" seem to invariably end up offloading as much heavy lifting as possible to ultra-expensive PaaS/SaaS vendors, and those vendors are encouraging it (e.g. Vercel v0).

rychco|10 months ago

I don't necessarily think this is a bad goal, but the term "vibe coder" is almost certainly considered derogatory now.

koakuma-chan|10 months ago

The day before yesterday I got a technical assignment from a company I was interviewing with to build a Next.js app. Normally I would build it myself, but that day it just felt so tedious, so I gave Claude Code a try. To my surprise, with little to no guidance (probably cuz it was React), it built the app and it even looked very similar to mock-ups the company gave. I changed some things here and there and submitted the task. The whole thing was done in about half an hour. Yesterday they emailed me to schedule the next interview. I'm hooked.

michelpp|10 months ago

I turn 50 tomorrow and I love vibe coding. In the hands of an expert with decades of experience in all the internal corners of C, Python and Postgres I find AI tools to be miracles of technology. I know how to ask them exactly what I want and I know how to separate the goodness from the bullshit. If Supabase is bringing AI closer to the developer at the database level then that is a great thing.

DidYaWipe|10 months ago

Derogatory and just plain stupid.

biznickman|10 months ago

Only rough if you're pretentious.

Making it easy for engineers, experienced OR aspiring is huge.

zefhous|10 months ago

Part of what I think is rough is the framing of Postgres being "an alternative to Google’s Firebase" in the article. I mean, ok yeah they are both databases in a sense, but they are not the same thing at all. Firebase is a service and Postgres a database technology, and certainly not well-described as an alternative to Firebase by anyone competent in the industry. Lol.

I don't mean to demean "vibe coders" exactly either, but rather jumping on the hype train of using that term for your funding pitch. You're using AI to learn to become a software developer? Great! No problem with that.

But also — if you now have a database involved and you're handling people's data, you better learn what you're doing. A database provider pushing "vibe coding" is not a good look imo.

Rastonbury|10 months ago

Yeah the heroku model, arguably AI makes the barriers for aspiring coders lower which means more potential customers

bena|10 months ago

Hey man, their money spends like anyone else's.