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> It is a stubborn refusal to see that one could be programming something much more sophisticated if they could use these iteration loops efficiently

Programming something more sophisticated with AI? AI is pretty much useless if you're doing anything somewhat novel. What it excels at is vomiting code that has already been written a million times so you can build yet another Electron cross-platform app.

[frankc]

This is just wrong. I don't know how else to say it as this point. If you are doing something novel, you need to be a lot more specific in what you tell it to do, but it can still put it together 5x faster than you can do manually. It's like saying you can't do something novel with junior developers. On their own? Not really. Guided by someone experienced who can do the systems design and has the domain knowledge to be the product manager? Yes, you definitely can. And it's not different with advanced LLMs. It's even better than having junior developer's working for you because they don't get tired or bored. They won't slack on writing docs or tests. I have written novel systems by having LLMs do the grunt work, and they have better docs and tests than I have ever done before because it's willing to do the things I don't find as interesting without complaint.

[newman8r]

what sort existing of projects do you think couldn't have been created with an AI-heavy workflow?

[kbelder]

AI?