[thomastraum]

"the correlation between quality and fame is weak at best, and that we should be suspicious of any definition of design excellence that depends on visibility."

everyone needs to internalize this. its similar to the "Gell-Mann Amnesia effect." (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gell-Mann_amnesia_effect) if someone in your domain is famous but their "quality" is weak, assume by default this is true for all other type of famous.