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codewench | 10 months ago

Seeing as how this article is talking about the deportation of US citizens, I'm going to question what exactly you mean by "here illegally".

Expanding the argument: I've just decided that you are illegally, and will thus be deported. As there is no due process, my word is law, have fun wherever you end up I literally do not care.

Does that seem fair? And before arguing "well this wouldn't happen, I'm not here illegally", again, this is an article about the deportation of US citizens. Children no less.

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rdtsc|10 months ago

> US citizens. Children no less.

But their parents aren’t. Parents can be deported. So let’s imagine they did that. We’d have an article how cruel they stole / kidnapped a child from their parents. Would that be better?

Having a child doesn’t automatically provide a legal cover for staying and not getting deported. Maybe that’s a risk the parents didn’t know about?

rsfern|10 months ago

No, that is a false dilemma. the right (and constitutional) thing to do is give all these people the due process and access to legal representation that they are entitled to, and work out a legal solution to all these conflicting concerns.

read the habeas petition for VMS (the two year old). The child has a US citizen relative and the father seems to have transferred provisional rights of custody to them.

PDF: https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.lawd.21...

shakna|10 months ago

That sounds like something where due process is supposed to come into play. The best of a series of bad alternatives are worked out in a steady manner by a court system, rather than a hopped up racist at the border bragging about the president being in their corner.

NemoNobody|10 months ago

I'm all right with changing that rule - anchor babies means we get two people and one them is brand new. Considering people are the most valuable resource, I think we should take all the potential anchors possible - let's give both parents citizenship automatically if they are parents of a citizen.

Let's fast track Aunts and Uncles too - maybe we can get the whole family.

firesteelrain|10 months ago

Parents are not stupid. The parents knew and chose to take their chances.

heromal|10 months ago

What's the point in arguing about what-ifs? The children were deported. In real life. There's no need for hypothetical scenarios, focus on the actual point of the article and thread.