[ekms]

I think the perception of America was just as critical, or even moreso, during the GWB presidencies and iraq war. (I imagine nixon and the vietnam war were thought of similarly). There's a tendency for people to have some historical amnesia and think of trump as qualitatively different somehow. But I can assure you that GWB was truly reviled especially in northern europe metro areas, and Americans was viewed then similarly to how it's viewed now.

[koonsolo]

I'm old enough to know, and no, it's not the same. Bush never claimed that Canada is a US state, never hinted at invading Greenland, never repeated Russian propaganda.

We thought the Gulf War 2 was under false pretenses of "Weapons of Mass Destruction", sure. But what Trump is doing is plain betrayal of trust amongst allies.

[disqard]

It's gaslighting via ye olde "both sides" reasoning:

"Oh, don't worry, all the politicians are corrupt liars, so the current administration is just like the preceding ones. Nothing to see here!"

Thank you for calling this out!

[insane_dreamer]

Yes, it was bad then, but it's even worse now, because of Trump's attitudes towards Europe, desire to annex Greenland, his coziness with Russia, and his hard-core support for Netanyahu and total disregard for the plight of the Palestinians.