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tidbits | 10 months ago

Take a look at the voting data for Prop 1A. It is very likely HSR would not have been approved in the first place if the central valley had been excluded. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2008_California_Proposition_...

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JumpCrisscross|10 months ago

> likely HSR would not have been approved in the first place if the central valley had been excluded

Then don't build it. That money would have been far better spent improving urban metro and regional rail. (And airports and roads and charging stations, et cetera.)

saagarjha|10 months ago

That money did literally improve urban metro and regional rail–Caltrain electrification came out of it.

dragonwriter|10 months ago

> That money would have been far better spent improving urban metro and regional rail.

CA HSR was the political lever to get funding to improve urban metro and regional rail, so, in a sense, the money was spent doing that.

jimt1234|10 months ago

> Then don't build it. That money would have been far better spent...

...only literally anything else!

Eridrus|10 months ago

Did it have to be funded by a proposition? Could the CA legislature not have passed a law?

SllX|10 months ago

Tax increases and bond measures have to go through the voters. The alternative is to get enough of the legislature, including probably some in Central Valley, to agree to cut a bunch of other more popular programs in order to fund it out of the general fund.

dragonwriter|10 months ago

> Did it have to be funded by a proposition?

Yes.

> Could the CA legislature not have passed a law?

To fund a long-term capital project? No, for a number of reasons. First, at that time, the CA legislature couldn't practically fund anything reliably (budget process is Constitutionally mandated to be annual, and at that time required a 2/3 supermajority to pass, which caused regular budget crises.) Second, and more importantly, structurally, to fund major capital projects, debt financing is required, and California cannot, Constitutionally, issue bonds without voter approval. Prop 1A was a legislative initiative amendment -- that is, the legislature had to pass a bill to put it on the ballot -- to secure that approval.