[foundry27]

I find the situation the big LLM players find themselves in quite ironic. Sam Altman promised (edit: under duress, from a twitter poll gone wrong) to release an open source model at the level of o3-mini to catch up to the perceived OSS supremacy of Deepseek/Qwen. Now Qwen3’s release makes a model that’s “only” equivalent to o3-mini effectively dead on arrival, both socially and economically.

[krackers]

I don't think they will ever do an open-source release, because then the curtains would be pulled back and people would see that they're not actually state of the art. Lama 4 already sort of tanked Meta's reputation, if OpenAI did that it'd decimate the value of their company.

If they do open sourcing something, I expect them to open-source some existing model (maybe something useless like gpt-3.5) rather than providing something new.

[aoeusnth1]

I have a hard time believing that he hadn't already made up his mind to make an open source model when he posted the poll in the first place

[Havoc]

OAI in general seems to be treading water at best.

Still topping a lot of leaderboards but severely reduced rep. Chaotic naming, „ClosedAI“ image, undercut on pricing, competitors with much better licensing/open weights, stargate talk about Europe, Claude being seen as superior for coding etc. nothing end of the world but a lot of lukewarm misses

If I was an investor with financials that basically require magical returns from them to justify Vals I’d be worried.

[laborcontract]

OpenAI has the business development side entirely fleshed out and that’s not nothing. They’ve done a lot of turns tuning models for things their customers use.

[buyucu]

ClosedAI is not doing a model release. It was just a marketing gimmick.