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axelMI | 10 months ago
I need to figure out if it's enough in Webgl to add gl.SRGB8_ALPHA8 when loading/ copying textures or I should gamma correct in all the color handling shaders. Will do some testing to figure it out.
axelMI | 10 months ago
I need to figure out if it's enough in Webgl to add gl.SRGB8_ALPHA8 when loading/ copying textures or I should gamma correct in all the color handling shaders. Will do some testing to figure it out.
virtualritz|10 months ago
But values returned from the texture lookup must also be linear for any calculations afterwards to make sense.
AFAIK you'd need to set internal format to SRGB8_ALPHA8 and the format to RGBA. Then the returned color is also linear.
However, according to [1], this combination is only allowed if the result type is requested UNSIGNED_BYTE, i.e. as 8bit/channel. That would mean you will get banding on gradients because 8bit/channel is not nearly enough to represent linear color.
I.e. the type should be at least HALF_FLOAT or FLOAT but the table suggest WebGL 2.0 does not support this. I'm not a realtime graphics person, so I may be missing something. And obviously, there must be some workaround for WebGL.
Furthermore, the final linear->non linear sRGB conversion must be done, too. I.e. before displaying the result. AFAIK the sRGB framebuffer GL extension can take care of this. But again, not sure.
The whole topic of color spaces (vs color models, i.e. RGB is a color model, not a color space) and gamma is not trivial.
Almost everyone starting out with any kind of computer graphics involving display/manipulation of colors gets this wrong first time because they do not know about this/assume this is trivial.
Don't be discouraged. A good read is [2]. While it specifically addresses color pipelines in VFX/film, all in there applies equally to a simple non-linear sRGB image (a typical JPG, e.g.) being manipulated and then displayed or saved out as 8bit/channel again.
[1] https://registry.khronos.org/webgl/specs/latest/2.0/#TEXTURE...
[2] https://www.imageworks.com/sites/default/files/2023-10/Cinem...
axelMI|10 months ago
Well the workflow should now be srgb correct! Had to fix some of the shaders and they now work, except for the vignette one that unexpectedly sucks in linear space but will replace it with another one soon.
Turns out adding gl.SRGB8_ALPHA8 for loading textures (excluding LUTs) and closing the pipeline with a linear-to-sRGB transform did the trick. Plus making sure the filters where working in the correct space.
No significant banding issues with 8bit depth images (except for the above-mentioned vignette filter). I did test with various gradients and sample images where I compared pixel by pixel. Apparently it holds quite well. Of course the 8bit limitation sucks and I'll keep looking for workarounds.
If you have the possibility to stress test it a little bit I would be forever grateful.
By the way, I'll add image blending soon which should help spotting colorspace errors.
axelMI|10 months ago