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Papirola | 10 months ago

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PaulHoule|10 months ago

I can't speak for other universities, but Jewish students have no reason to feel endangered at Cornell.

Some crazy Asian student wrote death threats to Jewish students and was kicked out. [1] When the lid blew off in Gaza all our sports events went clear bag, which was a hassle to me as a sports photographer. Security cameras popped up all over the engineering school over a weekend, contrast that to any blue collar projects in my building which always go on for months or years. The encampment on the arts quad was polite, nobody could say they were deprived of an education by it. Students who disrupted a job fair were suspended and ultimately reported.

[1] Black students, gay students, women, etc. can't say that they get this kind of service from public safety.

mmooss|10 months ago

> Jewish students have no reason to feel endangered at Cornell.

Have you spoken with Jewish students? Do you have first-hand knowledge? It's a stereotype of our blindness to dismiss other people's concerns, especially over safety and discrimination.

Calavar|10 months ago

Let's be real, this is a Maoist attempt to supress the intelligencia. The anti-Semitism angle is just a thin veneer to sell it publicly. This is why, after Columbia accepted the first set of demands, the admin immediately came back with a second set of demands

Larrikin|10 months ago

Not withholding cancer research because two countries on the other side of the planet can't get along and make it everyone else's problem shouldn't be difficult either.

Papirola|10 months ago

I agree 100% - I would point out that it's not the Jewish students who set "encampments".

barbazoo|10 months ago

> Asking to stop harassing Jewish students is not an "assault".

Quite the strawman

marricks|10 months ago

I believe what’s under discussion is a students right to protest the US governments involvement in the genocide of the Palestinian people.

Papirola|10 months ago

I believe you can protest whatever, even things that are not real (like the so called genocide, where the population actually grows). There should of course be limits to your protest: violence against people you disagree with should never be an option.

PS: if you can stop the war by returning all the hostages, it's not a genocide.

strathmeyer|10 months ago

"Never believe that anti-Semites are completely unaware of the absurdity of their replies. They know that their remarks are frivolous, open to challenge. But they are amusing themselves, for it is their adversary who is obliged to use words responsibly, since he believes in words. The anti-Semites have the right to play. They even like to play with discourse for, by giving ridiculous reasons, they discredit the seriousness of their interlocutors. They delight in acting in bad faith, since they seek not to persuade by sound argument but to intimidate and disconcert. If you press them too closely, they will abruptly fall silent, loftily indicating by some phrase that the time for argument is past."