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stillatit | 10 months ago

So what is the punishment for outright lying under oath?

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90s_dev|10 months ago

Generally none, the DA must choose to pursue perjury charges, which basically never happens. In reality, nearly everyone commits perjury. Thomas More would not approve. Both versions (1966 and 1988) of A Man For All Seasons are highly worth watching several times and practically memorizing. "Would you benefit England by populating her with liars?" [edit] in retrospect, there is one inescapable consequence of lying under oath: your word now means nothing to honest people.

ryandrake|10 months ago

I bet if a poor person struggling to hold down three jobs to survive were found to be lying under oath, the DA would throw the book at them.

Jcampuzano2|10 months ago

To be honest companies practically incentivize having no moral compass and lying to succeed. Every major company's executives incorporate lying judiciously to their employees and their users alike and encourage their reports to lie to theirs and so on. Adhering to complete honesty is a one way ticket to HR.

Sit on any all-hands call for a major company and it is practically guaranteed large chunks of the presentation will be executive gaslighting of its own employees with info that is objectively false or a misrepresentation. You will also never get a real answer to actual hard questions (especially if it is on the topic of something that may negatively affect workers) which is essentially lying by omission.

It doesn't help that we have now proven that you can lie all the way to the seat of being president of the united states.

That said - whether we like it or not, we are now a culture built on lying.

usefulcat|10 months ago

I've not seen the one from 1988; I'll have to check that out. I've long enjoyed the one from '66.

I also heartily recommend both seasons of Wolf Hall. About Cromwell rather than More, but still fascinating.

dfedbeef|10 months ago

Oh no, my word means nothing to honest people.

Boards private jet to Monaco

DannyBee|10 months ago

This is mostly true - but it will be used against you in future civil proceedings as well.

IE this person is now useless as a witness pretty much forever.

labster|10 months ago

There are so few honest Americans that it hardly matters to serve such a small demographic.

andrewmcwatters|10 months ago

Clearly nothing, since we've decided to be a nation that doesn't enforce laws.

georgemcbay|10 months ago

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platevoltage|10 months ago

I mean, that contribution to his inauguration fund is what probably got them that tariff exemption.