[placatedmayhem]

I'm curious whether the community will trust Redis-the-company again after this, or if they'll choose to stick with Valkey. The other concern is at least some big company legal departments are wary of AGPL software, which makes Valkey, still BSD, more attractive to them.

Edit: Regardless, thank you and the rest of the folks inside Redis for pushing to bring this back to OSS!

[cortesoft]

We kept using redis, the license change never affected us. We had no reason to switch.

[ketzo]

I imagine there is quite a large, quiet fraction (majority) of users who were the same way.

Not to say it’s not an important discussion!

[dharmab]

From the blog post it seems like existing users kept using Redis but new users adopted alternatives instead.

[ramon156]

Same here. The response from the community was valid, but basically didn't affect us.

[seneca]

All of this aside, Redis-the-company has some of the least tactful salespeople I've come across in my long stint in this industry. Used car sales level tactics.

Between that and the licensing, I would never consider dealing with them.

[antirez]

The team of sales was, AFAIK, rebuilt from scratch recently. Please if this happened recently tell me, and I'll make sure to report back. Thanks.

[llmthrow103]

We switched to Valkey on our Elasticache instances and immediately noticed a performance improvement in our usecase that allowed us to reduce number of instances. Not really interested in moving back to Redis at this point.

[ksec]

I am thinking the same that going to AGPL may actually push more people to Valkey.

Although I haven't checked if ValKey any substantial development since the fork.

[reconditerose]

Yeah, there has been a lot of stuff like performance [1] and efficiency improvements [2]. A lot of the contributors, that didn't work for Redis labs but worked on Redis OSS before the fork, moved to Valkey and they continued to contribute.

[1] https://valkey.io/blog/unlock-one-million-rps-part2/ [2] https://valkey.io/blog/new-hash-table/

[graton]

Well Valkey has more commits to their repository then Redis does, and more contributors. So it appears to be active.

https://github.com/valkey-io/valkey

https://github.com/redis/redis

[skywhopper]

In fact, some of Redis 8’s new features were taken from Valkey source code.

[olavgg]

Valkey has RDMA support, which offers significant performance improvements.

[kiitos]

Statistically nobody is using valkey.

[cyrnel]

Amazon really encourages valkey in the elasticache dashboard. There's a banner advertising lower prices and it's listed first in the dropdown when you go to create one. Default settings do have power.

[_msw_]

If you use the latest versions of Redis, you are benefiting from the continued efforts of the Valkey development community. [1]

This is Open Source working well.

Unfortunately, the reverse flow does not work.

[1] https://github.com/redis/redis/pull/13638

[rmsaksida]

I've been using Valkey simply because after I updated to the latest Fedora version, it dropped redis and pointed me to Valkey instead. I assume as more distros do this and more people update their systems, the Valkey user base will grow. But perhaps with the AGPL redis that will no longer be the case.

[jzb]

That kind of assertion really needs some backup or it's just noise. I'll be honest and say that I have no idea what the usage stats for Valkey are -- and it may be that it's a drop in the bucket compared to Redis. But I don't know. Can you back this up or is this just your gut feeling?

[echoangle]

Are there usage stats available? How do you know this?

[shaky-carrousel]

Yeah, all the open source distributions and most open source projects switching to valkey must be "nobody".

[lurking_swe]

what do you mean? i work at a FAANG-adjacent company and our entire engineering org was told to switch to valkey, with an internal deadline from ops. My team supports a public facing service and we made the switch 2 months ago.

It was pretty easy, a small config change and some performance testing to make sure it worked well at scale.

Maybe nobody is talking about it online but some people have definitely switched.

[teaearlgraycold]

I don't know about valkey but I got word Nvidia was switching away from Redis.

[oweiler]

Yet. It's a drop-in replacement, and both faster and cheaper.

[VWWHFSfQ]

I very much doubt that anyone will stick with valkey after the PaaS providers switch back to just offering Redis proper.

[md3911027514]

Why would PaaS providers switch back to offering Redis? They've clearly all already invested a lot in Valkey (AWS, GCP, Heroku).