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proneb1rd | 10 months ago

Not only UK, Europe in general is stuck in this nonsense. People buy properties, tenants pay their mortgage. In 15 years the property is yours mostly at the expense of someone else plus it gained in value. After owning it for so long and selling the property you probably pay lower capital gains from that too. Unless you put all that money in the right stocks in 2010, renting just doesn’t make all that much sense in this economy.

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angra_mainyu|10 months ago

> renting just doesn’t make all that much sense in this economy

I disagree.

Example scenario of many young Europeans in their 20s:

- living in small or mid-sized city

- job offer pops up paying significantly more across the country, either capital or one of the top cities

- move and earn significantly more (even when adjusted for CoL)

- continue progressing careerwise

- job offer pops up elsewhere, possibly in other EU countries, pays significantly more

A reasonable person in their 20s would allow themselves the chance to focus on professional career growth/salary growth up until they hit their mid-30s in which they can start considering settling in a given place and purchasing. Before that it's nonsensical.

To give my own example, I went through various cities across several countries, starting at 12k, then a few years later job offer in another country for 33k, then a few years later at 54k, then at 115k, all before 30 years old (because I allowed myself to be anchor-free).

The rest who stayed put in the same city? 12k to 30k in the same span of time.

Anyone telling a person in their 20s: "buy a house and stay put" is giving terrible advice. The advice should be something along the lines of: "what you do in your 20s will bear fruits in your 30s, stay open-minded, adventurous, don't be afraid to burn out and discover your limits, see the world before your parents get old, and try your hardest".