[thiagoharry]

The country was completely subjulgated by England, was sacked by several western powers. See the Opium Wars, the unequal treaties, several lands were stolen.

[sepositus]

Thanks, but I was looking for an explanation of the "hardly more bloody" comment. I briefly looked up casualties for the things you listed and it's not even remotely close to the deaths attribute to Mao.

[woooooo]

Read up on the Boxer Rebellion, then, if you're looking for large numbers of casualties.

Always amazing to me how we're all supposed to be outraged for chinese/Russians who suffered under particular rulers, while also being generally hostile to them as nations and people.

[wordofx]

40m 80m. Does it really matter? It doesn’t change the fact he starved his country while he lived like a king all in the name of making China look better and richer than it was. It also doesn’t change the fact that it wasn’t until China opened up and embraced capitalism and rolled back Mao policies that it actually grew.

[thiagoharry]

I edited the comment. Indeed, by the number of deaths, the last great famines surpass the deaths in war and occupation.