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cwzwarich | 10 months ago

> This is a significant problem on AMD; Intel and Apple seems to be better.

When did this change? In my testing years ago (while I was writing Rosetta 2, so Icelake-era Intel), Intel only allowed a load to forward from a single store, and no partial forwarding (i.e. mixed cache/register) without a huge penalty, whereas AMD at least allowed partial forwarding (or had a considerably lower penalty than Intel).

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Sesse__|10 months ago

I don't know if AMD allows more or fewer _situations_, but empirically, I'm seeing a lot of total cycles lost to this on Zen 2 and 3, and much less on the Intel CPUs I've been testing (mostly Skylake derivatives and Alder Lake).

I haven't tested Zen 4 or 5, but I haven't heard anything that indicates they should be a lot better.

cwzwarich|10 months ago

Interesting! IIRC, the LLVM passes dedicated to dodging this issue were contributed by Intel engineers, so maybe there’s some bias.